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SusanH34 (North Carolina)
Posts: 21
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I know the HOA must not mingle Reserve savings (aka sinking funds) with Operating expenses, for IRA reasons. Is there any problem with using Operating funds to supplement Reserve expenditures? Specifically, if the HOA set aside $10,000 for additional landscaping, and the bill is $11,000, can we add $1,000 from an Operating funds cushion? Would the IRS care?
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Posted By SusanH34 on 01/19/2023 12:26 PM
I know the HOA must not mingle Reserve savings (aka sinking funds) with Operating expenses, for IRA reasons. Is there any problem with using Operating funds to supplement Reserve expenditures? Specifically, if the HOA set aside $10,000 for additional landscaping, and the bill is $11,000, can we add $1,000 from an Operating funds cushion? Would the IRS care?

Additional landscaping might be considered a Capital Improvement thus not payable with Reserve Funds.

We are facing some additional landscaping costs as we cannot grow grass under some trees so we are discussing mulching those areas over at an additional cost. It will be "budgeted" for and paid from Operating Expenses.

IRS reasons are rarely an issue in an HOA. How they pay for something (Reserves, Operating, Special Assessment) is a burning, often discussed issue.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Surely you have line items in your operating budget for landscaping, Susan, there's a line item for the contract. Often there's a line item for plant replacement because reserves shouldn't be used for anything that lasts a year or less and many HOAs budget a certain amount for annuals. There's often a line item for stuff like pest control, mulch, etc.

Your reserves account most likely is for replacement for larger items like trees or completed special areas, perhaps an entry monument area. Additions to landscaping may not be paid for out of reserves. That would be a capital expenditure. Either your board has created a line item for it for 2023 in your operating budget. OR your operating budget has perhaps a Contingency line item, which can pay for a new landscaping area.

Reserve accounts are never called "sinking funds" in HOA lingo. And as JohnC wrote, the IRS does'nt care.
SusanH34 (North Carolina)
Posts: 21
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For clarity - I have been this HOA's treasurer since it began in early 2021. I oversaw the reserve study, and I wrote the operating budget. We have operating expenses in the budget for mowing and mulching. The project I'm talking about is a line item in our reserve study for Landscaping Projects & Tree Removal, which we plan to use for creating new planting beds and installing trees, perennials, and boulders to make boring, flat areas look inviting. We are adding an amenity.

As for landscaping not being paid out of reserves at all, websites that I won't name for fear of breaking the rules on this forum say:

"As a rule of thumb, HOA reserve funds are used to cover any expenses that do not occur regularly. There are any number of unusual or unexpected expenses that could arise in your homeowners association, but some of the most common uses of HOA reserve funds include:
Completing major landscaping projects
Constructing a new community playground ...
Replacing the pump for your HOA’s pool
Replacing the roof of your clubhouse or another common area ..."

"You can also use HOA reserve funds for large landscaping projects, repainting common buildings, adding sidewalks, repaving roads, swimming pool repairs, and construction of an amenity."

"If your HOA is managing its finances appropriately, there will be a reserve fund that should be used to finance capital improvements."

The IRS most certainly does care about reserve funds. Another quote that I can't source:
"The catch in dealing with reserves is that you don't pay income tax on reserve funds," says Diamond. "So if you use them for an improper purpose, like to cover ordinary operating expenses, you convert your reserves into taxable income."

That's the core of my question. I understand you can't use reserves to cover operating expenses, but can you use operating funds to supplement reserves?
MichaelT21 (Arkansas)
Posts: 200
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Yes, you are generally not prohibited from using operating account money to pay for something that could be covered by reserves. This may be state specific and I don't know your state law, but generally it is fine.
SusanH34 (North Carolina)
Posts: 21
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Thank you!
GarryR (Virginia)
Posts: 4
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Our HOA is experiencing similar issues in preparing the upcoming years budget. We were advised that creating proceedures on when and how to use reserves whether operational capital Reserves, replacement reserves or owners capital reserve. Provides consistency on the utilization. Reserve Processes also eliminate questions utilization of expenses vs reserves as well as making the budget formulation easier, remember to address how the reserves are replenished.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Please do cite your sources, Susan. That is not only acceptable but assures some of us that the source is appropriate for the topic.

Susan's source says: "As a rule of thumb, HOA reserve funds are used to cover any expenses that do not occur regularly...." Examples include "Constructing a new community playground ..." Ditto "constructing sidewalks." Form all I've read and experienced over many years of reading reserve studies, constructing a new playground is a capital improvement or expenditure and would not be in a reserves study.

Even the first part of the sentence I cited above seems off. Our Annual reserves report by a certified reserve specialist states reserves only covers common area items or components, not "any expense that do not occur regularly." In fact every reserve item in a study does have a predicted life so each does have a "regular" repair/replacement estimate whether it's 2 years or 25.

No one here stated reserves should not cover landscaping, e.g. replacement of trees, major landscape areas, etc.

I'd say "adding an amenity," which is what Sean proposes should be paid for out of the operating budget or a special assessment. Once work begins and the Toal cost is know, then ad it to the rserserve study. Do note that regular maintenance of that area would be an operating budget expenses, part of a contract, I assume. Replacing the items in it would be your reserve component.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By SusanH34 on 01/20/2023 8:56 AM
The IRS most certainly does care about reserve funds. Another quote that I can't source:
"The catch in dealing with reserves is that you don't pay income tax on reserve funds," says Diamond. "So if you use them for an improper purpose, like to cover ordinary operating expenses, you convert your reserves into taxable income."
Anyone can google and see that the source of this quotation is attributable to an attorney named "Bob Diamond." E.g. https://www.hoaleader.com/public/Limits-on-Employing-Your-HOAs-Reserve-Funds.cfm#:~:text=%22The%20catch%20in%20dealing%20with,your%20reserves%20into%20taxable%20income.

If someone has anything to demonstrate that what Diamond said is not a line of cr-p, I'd like to see it. Whatever Diamond means, I think any competent HOA accountant knows how to treat transfers from the reserves to the operating account such that there lawfully is no income tax owed. I'd expect circumstances to have to be highly extraordinary for there to be any problem with a HOA spending any of its money, from the operating account or the reserve account, on any item that the HOA is required to maintain, for the short or long term.
MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
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You do pay income tax on the interest that is generated from both an operating account and a reserve account. So, yes, the IRS is looking at your reserve account.
JeanneH3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 158
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Posted By ElleN on 01/20/2023 2:46 PM
Posted By SusanH34 on 01/20/2023 8:56 AM
The IRS most certainly does care about reserve funds. Another quote that I can't source:
"The catch in dealing with reserves is that you don't pay income tax on reserve funds," says Diamond. "So if you use them for an improper purpose, like to cover ordinary operating expenses, you convert your reserves into taxable income."
Anyone can google and see that the source of this quotation is attributable to an attorney named "Bob Diamond." E.g. https://www.hoaleader.com/public/Limits-on-Employing-Your-HOAs-Reserve-Funds.cfm#:~:text=%22The%20catch%20in%20dealing%20with,your%20reserves%20into%20taxable%20income.

If someone has anything to demonstrate that what Diamond said is not a line of cr-p, I'd like to see it. Whatever Diamond means, I think any competent HOA accountant knows how to treat transfers from the reserves to the operating account such that there lawfully is no income tax owed. I'd expect circumstances to have to be highly extraordinary for there to be any problem with a HOA spending any of its money, from the operating account or the reserve account, on any item that the HOA is required to maintain, for the short or long term.

Adding the remaining part of the Bob Diamond quote in the linked site for context: "However if you properly structure your use for the money, like by making a loan to your operating fund, you can use that cash for anything you want. But you have to pay it back. I'd advise any board to consult with their accountant and maybe their lawyer to make sure they structure that properly to protect the nontaxable nature of the reserve funds."

ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By JeanneH3 on 01/22/2023 3:53 AM
Adding the remaining part of the Bob Diamond quote in the linked site for context: "However if you properly structure your use for the money, like by making a loan to your operating fund, you can use that cash for anything you want. But you have to pay it back. I'd advise any board to consult with their accountant and maybe their lawyer to make sure they structure that properly to protect the nontaxable nature of the reserve funds."
Yeah, I thought the part about 'having to pay it back' was too vague to have any value. Also it's just bs to speak of reserve funds being nontaxable, implying in the same breath that money (the assessment income) used for operating expenses is necessarily taxable. Assessment income is only incredibly rarely going to be taxable.

I could be missing something, and I'd like to hear Bob Diamond take some questions on his points.

I am fine with advising that boards check to see if statutes and covenants permit them to move reserve funds to operating expenses. But taxation? I just don't see that using reserves for declaration-prescribed operating expenses (in a pinch, presumably) would cause tax consequences.
SusanH34 (North Carolina)
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I think that's the point - if you did use reserves for operating expenses on a whim and did not pay back the reserve fund, the IRS could make you pay tax. It's like piercing the veil between a person who owns and LLC and the LLC itself by mingling funds. You only get the benefit of using form 1120-H (https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-1120-h) if the HOA keeps a clean division between reserves and operating money and uses reserves only for IRS-approved purposes.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By SusanH34 on 01/22/2023 10:49 AM
I think that's the point - if you did use reserves for operating expenses on a whim and did not pay back the reserve fund, the IRS could make you pay tax. It's like piercing the veil between a person who owns and LLC and the LLC itself by mingling funds. You only get the benefit of using form 1120-H (https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-1120-h) if the HOA keeps a clean division between reserves and operating money and uses reserves only for IRS-approved purposes.
I can assure you the IRC makes no distinction between the use of reserves and the use of operating funds when it comes to taxable income.

You have to understand that Form 1120-H is an //income tax form//. It seeks to determine if the HOA has taxable income. Just because reserve money is used to pay operating expenses does not make the amount transferred for operating purposes "income for the HOA." It simply is not.

What the IRS is interested in is when income is not from assessments.

You should read this basic primer https://hoatax.com/irs-form-1120h-understanding-tips/ and tell me if it disabuses you at all of this ridiculous notion that reserve funds transferred to the operating account can magically become taxable income.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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I apologize Susan. I posted BS. The IRS does have specific guidance on using HOA assessments, placed in the reserve account, for non-reserve components. The guidance is to help HOAs avoid assessment income becoming taxable income. See ​https://altitude.law/resources/newsletter/association-taxation-and-reserves/:

"The Internal Revenue Service (“IRS”) excludes from an association’s taxable income those amounts [of collected assessments?] which are properly kept and used for capital contributions. [snippage] For assessments to be classified as capital contributions, the association must comply with the following criteria in the Revenue Rulings:

Notify unit owners in advance that a specific portion of their assessments represents capital contributions to the association. This can be accomplished by including the reserve fund contributions as a line item in the annual budget.

Designate reserve fund contributions for specific future capital expenditures. This can be accomplished by having a reserve study conducted. The reserve study should list the funds required for each expected future capital expenditure. Associations that are currently setting aside funds for future capital expenditures and have not conducted a reserve study would not meet this requirement.

Monies earmarked for reserves should be utilized only for the major repair and replacement of assets and not for other purposes.
Segregate reserve funds from operating funds. This means separate bank accounts must be established for reserve funds and might prohibit inter-fund borrowing.

Maintenance items such as painting, staining, and caulking are not considered capital replacements for tax purposes."

Three sites that say what condo attorney Bob Diamond says:

https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/H/HOA-Taxes
"This article on "Reserves as Capital Contributions" [https://pl-cpas.com/index.php/publication/reserves-as-capital-contributions] explains the requirements for reserve assessments to be considered capital contributions for tax purposes. Failure to comply with all these requirements may cause the IRS to challenge the exclusion of reserve assessments from taxable income. [The linked article provides the IRS ruling numbers]

https://www.buildium.com/blog/hoa-reserve-fund-accounting/:
"As we mentioned before, reserve funds are held in a separate account from operating and other funds. This is called fund balance accounting. It allows an HOA to manage and allocate funds for specific uses and keep clear records of where every dollar goes.

This is very important for two reasons. First, if reserve money is not in a separate account, the IRS can look at it as taxable income to the HOA. Second, it’s absolutely essential to keep track of what comes in and goes out of the HOA. Residents want to know where their money is. And, should the HOA be audited, the treasurer will have to account for every dollar the HOA has earned and spent."

https://emspm.com/hoa-reserve/ (web site run by a management company)
"HOA Reserves and Taxation
Are reserve funds taxable? Homeowners association reserve funds are not considered taxable income. But, if you use your reserves to pay for operating expenses, you automatically make them taxable.

It is also worth noting that the account in which you put your reserves can determine whether or not it is taxable. If you keep your reserve funds in the same account as your operating funds, then the IRS will deem it as taxable income. Along with setting up internal controls, taxation is a good reason to keep your reserve in a separate, interest-bearing account. Though, the interest you earn on your reserves is still taxable.
SusanH34 (North Carolina)
Posts: 21
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Thank you ElleN for doing the research, realizing you were mistaken, and then posting such a helpful summary of the IRS and HOAs. Truly - many people on the internet post uninformed conclusions without checking their opinions and get mad when challenged. You spent time to do the work and post an honest and useful correction. In my opinion, you win the web today!

Now that you've done all that work, do you think I could safely add some operating money to a planned reserve expense, where the amount listed in our reserve study does not cover all of the current pricing? The altitude.law link suggests it may be allowed:
"In many instances, excess operating funds may be transferred to reserves and excluded from taxable income if there is a reserve study in place which is not fully funded."

Our reserves are far from being fully funded, and I would rather spend a little operating cushion than sacrifice future re-roofing or road paving money. The difference here is we would spend excess operating funds instead of transferring to the reserve account.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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SusanH34, after doing the aforementioned reading, including what you saw at the altitude.law link, off the top of my head I agree a board agreeing to transfer operating funds* to spend on reserve components is not problematic from a tax standpoint (or perhaps any standpoint), especially compared to the reverse (meaning transfers from reserves to operating). It comes down to simply deciding that more than was originally planned should be contributed from the operating account to the reserves.

As you may know: I think directors must keep in mind that 'budgeting, including reserve planning, is not an exact science.' Yes, in many states budgets have to be approved. But there's no law that says the budget, dollar for dollar and line for line, has to be followed. The latter would be ridiculous.

Some states have laws about certain types of mid-year amendments to a budget that was approved.

I note that none of what appears at https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/U/Unexpected-Expense seems to apply.

* specifically from the cushion built into the operating budget via the operating budget's 'contingency fund' line item that should be a part of every annual budget.
JeanneH3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 158
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Posted By ElleN on 01/22/2023 11:42 AM
I apologize Susan. I posted BS. The IRS does have specific guidance on using HOA assessments, placed in the reserve account, for non-reserve components. The guidance is to help HOAs avoid assessment income becoming taxable income.

Here is another link to add to your collection: https://cozbycpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/CozbyCPA-AssocReserveFunds-Presentation.pdf Scroll down to "What is a Reserve Fund - Taxes"

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