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Subject: update: dog biting issue..
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JimR24
(Texas)

Posts:352


04/07/2016 4:42 AM  
Hey everybody, i wanted to give you an update on where our Association is on our recent dog biting issue. For those of you who have not read the previous discussion thread abut this subject, a homeowner was bit by a dog within our common area - and our Board members felt it was appropriate for us to become involved.

Here are some of outcomes so far...

- our Association has responded by increasing its knowledge of the dog rescue program; thereby likely increasing the number of dogs which are rescued. Because of this incident, i feel that more of our homeowners will consider becoming more involved in the dog rescue program.

- all our homeowners are becoming more aware of the herding behavior of some species of dogs and the proper way to train (or untrain, in this case).

- we now have much more visibility within our community about the poor wording of our DCC&R (regarding pets and dog biting issues). This subject will be assigned to our Covenant Committee so a more healthy approach to this issue can come about.

- because of all of your kind consideration (and excellent discussion here at HOALeader.com), we are encouraged about bringing all kinds of resources in to help us come up with a better way to approach this issue should another dog bite of this kind happen again.

- because of your kind involvement here on this discussion board, we are aware that we are not alone regarding this subject. We know that others of you are concerned about this same issue.

**SPECIAL NOTE TO TIM: Tim, we are aware that you are working on this subject and hope you will share your work with us.**

- and, of course, by doing the above, we want to make things better for our Board, such that we (and future boards) will not be put into this kind of difficult situation again.

Thanks to all of you (and to the HOALeader Discussion Board) for being a part of this!

oljim, in texas

Lovin' life with my honey!
and, Treasurer of Condo Association
JimR24
(Texas)

Posts:352


04/07/2016 4:46 AM  
Apology to HOATalk.com.

I meant to reference the excellent work being done by HOATalk.com, not HOALeader.com...my bad.

oljim, in texas

Lovin' life with my honey!
and, Treasurer of Condo Association
MichelleK5
(New York)

Posts:161


04/07/2016 5:02 AM  
Hi Jim-

You said a lot there, but what exactly are you doing again? Lol..

Rescue is wonderful- I'm heavily involved in it. But not sure what that has to do with anything? Please explain.

Regarding your other points, it's wonderful that this brought up a discussion on how to handle bites in your community.
But has any of it changed the outcome of the current situation?

JimR24
(Texas)

Posts:352


04/07/2016 5:15 AM  
Posted By MichelleK5 on 04/07/2016 5:02 AM
Hi Jim-

You said a lot there, but what exactly are you doing again? Lol..

Rescue is wonderful- I'm heavily involved in it. But not sure what that has to do with anything? Please explain.

Regarding your other points, it's wonderful that this brought up a discussion on how to handle bites in your community.
But has any of it changed the outcome of the current situation?





Hi Michelle - we are doing all the things i've described in my above message and are looking forward to it!

The dog which bit is a rescue dog. My guess is that one of the outcomes of this incident is that more dogs will be rescued. Because of my background in ranching and farming, i am well aware of the herding behaviour of certain species of dogs. Sometimes, dogs need to be "untrained" because of their aptitudes - instead of trained...[smile]...

Because of the poor wording of our DCC&R, the current situation has not changed. Given the current circumstances, unfortunately, the dog has to be removed from our community. Our Board held a meeting with the homeowner and it went well. The meeting was emotional and very productive.

oljim, in texas

Lovin' life with my honey!
and, Treasurer of Condo Association
BanksS


Posts:0


04/07/2016 5:53 AM  
Jim,

You know how much I rspect your gentlemanly behavior on this site, I just wonder how you think a biting rescue dog will prompt others into the dog rescue world.. Personally I would think it would have the opposite affect. I do admire how you tackled this issue for future dog bite issues. Hopefully it won't come up too often in your comunity.
JimR24
(Texas)

Posts:352


04/07/2016 6:08 AM  
Posted By BanksS on 04/07/2016 5:53 AM
Jim,

You know how much I rspect your gentlemanly behavior on this site, I just wonder how you think a biting rescue dog will prompt others into the dog rescue world.. Personally I would think it would have the opposite affect. I do admire how you tackled this issue for future dog bite issues. Hopefully it won't come up too often in your comunity.




Well BanksS - after seeing how the meeting went, i believe there's a strong possibility of this (e.g. more sensitivity - and involvement - about the needs of rescue dogs) happening. Also, we will be having our Annual Meeting in the near future and i am understanding that this subject will likely be discussed then. The homeowner involved in this incident has been invited to speak at our Annual Meeting and i am hopeful she follows through with this.

Hey, i appreciate the kind words - maybe you'll be able put in a good word to my wife too...joke,joke,wink,wink - ..lol...

oljim, in texas

Lovin' life with my honey!
and, Treasurer of Condo Association
PitA


Posts:0


04/07/2016 6:08 AM  
When it comes to deed restrictions:

Fewer are better.

ESPECIALLY any restrictions which may pose liability upon the association.

eg. attempting to regulate dog behavior when a VOLUUME of public law is already in place

'poop' is another matter, albeit ALSO covered by existing legislation


ps. IMO, simply reference the existing actual law in the covenants as an association 'fining issue'
JimR24
(Texas)

Posts:352


04/07/2016 6:25 AM  
Posted By PitA on 04/07/2016 6:08 AM
When it comes to deed restrictions:

Fewer are better.

ESPECIALLY any restrictions which may pose liability upon the association.

eg. attempting to regulate dog behavior when a VOLUUME of public law is already in place

'poop' is another matter, albeit ALSO covered by existing legislation


ps. IMO, simply reference the existing actual law in the covenants as an association 'fining issue'




Excellent thinking PitA - IMHO...and i will be sharing this line of thinking with our Covenant Committee as they address this important subject.

Thanks!

oljim, in texas

Lovin' life with my honey!
and, Treasurer of Condo Association
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