CathyA3 (Ohio)
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Posts: 6,299
Posted:
Paul posted the following in another thread, and it sounds like a timely item:
First off, two communities can appear identical from the outside but have very different assessments. Factors that affect assessments include:
* Age and condition of the community (how well have things been maintained)
* Self-managed or do you employ a community manager
* Streets (are they public or private)
* Utilities (included or not, which ones, what are the local utility rates and have they changed recently)
* Amenities (what kinds, what condition are they in)
* Insurance (have your rates gone up dramatically for some reason)
* Reserves (are your reserves adequate, are they being neglected, are you playing catch up for past underfunding or paying off a loan)
* Legal expenses (has the association been involved in legal actions)
* Delinquencies (how many owners are behind in their assessments, how successful have the collection efforts been)
* Location of the community and unusual environmental conditions (can include things like being in a flood or wildfire area plus the general cost of living for your part of the country)
In addition, townhome communities can either be HOAs or condos. If condos, the association will be responsible for a greater share of the maintenance of the buildings, so assessments will be higher. I suspect you're in condos since owners in HOAs generally pay for their own utilities such as water and sewer - at least that's the case in my area.
Finally, inflation has been running around 8% last time I looked, supply chains have been wonky (and are about to get wonkier since China has taken the brakes off the covid pandemic), and community associations have been competing with the building industry for workers and raw materials. All of this has been driving up costs dramatically,
An assessment of $345 per month doesn't seem out of line to me, especially when considering the factors above. I'm in a condo community, no amenities whatsoever, and I pay around $250 per month. Pools are expensive to maintain and expensive to operate (water, regular testing, cleaning, security, insurance, etc.). If we had a pool, I'd expect my assessment to go over $300.
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Posted By PaulH26 on 12/31/2022 1:43 PM
My wife and I live in a medium sized complex, 90 or so units, with a pool and no other amenities other that green space left after the tennis courts were removed many years ago. It's a townhome community with 2-car detached garages. Our HOA fee was recently increased to $345, which has increased yearly from $285 in the last two years. Water, sewer, trash, etc. are included in the fee, but is there anyone on this forum that has a HOA fee this large for so few amenities? Curious...
My wife and I live in a medium sized complex, 90 or so units, with a pool and no other amenities other that green space left after the tennis courts were removed many years ago. It's a townhome community with 2-car detached garages. Our HOA fee was recently increased to $345, which has increased yearly from $285 in the last two years. Water, sewer, trash, etc. are included in the fee, but is there anyone on this forum that has a HOA fee this large for so few amenities? Curious...
First off, two communities can appear identical from the outside but have very different assessments. Factors that affect assessments include:
* Age and condition of the community (how well have things been maintained)
* Self-managed or do you employ a community manager
* Streets (are they public or private)
* Utilities (included or not, which ones, what are the local utility rates and have they changed recently)
* Amenities (what kinds, what condition are they in)
* Insurance (have your rates gone up dramatically for some reason)
* Reserves (are your reserves adequate, are they being neglected, are you playing catch up for past underfunding or paying off a loan)
* Legal expenses (has the association been involved in legal actions)
* Delinquencies (how many owners are behind in their assessments, how successful have the collection efforts been)
* Location of the community and unusual environmental conditions (can include things like being in a flood or wildfire area plus the general cost of living for your part of the country)
In addition, townhome communities can either be HOAs or condos. If condos, the association will be responsible for a greater share of the maintenance of the buildings, so assessments will be higher. I suspect you're in condos since owners in HOAs generally pay for their own utilities such as water and sewer - at least that's the case in my area.
Finally, inflation has been running around 8% last time I looked, supply chains have been wonky (and are about to get wonkier since China has taken the brakes off the covid pandemic), and community associations have been competing with the building industry for workers and raw materials. All of this has been driving up costs dramatically,
An assessment of $345 per month doesn't seem out of line to me, especially when considering the factors above. I'm in a condo community, no amenities whatsoever, and I pay around $250 per month. Pools are expensive to maintain and expensive to operate (water, regular testing, cleaning, security, insurance, etc.). If we had a pool, I'd expect my assessment to go over $300.