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Subject: Hosting HOA Gate Camera and recording equipment
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LindseyF
(California)

Posts:3


06/17/2021 12:56 AM  
My SFH is located next to the gates into our small community. HOA has asked me to host two cameras and recording equipment, installation paid by the HOA. There will be two cameras installed to monitor the gates and a fan cooled "black box" recording video footage 24/7. Access to the video footage will be wireless via a secured app. My understanding the video footage will not be live monitored and its main use will be for after the fact forensic evidence. My cost for hosting will be providing power for the equipment and data usage to view the footage.

The installer came to scope out the installation and asked if I'm being compensated for hosting the equipment. I hadn't plan to ask for reimbursement, but the installer suggested I do and to have an agreement in writing.

I currently pay $30 per month to add unlimited data to my xFinity plan. Electricity rates are $0.1806 hWh Summer, $0.1153 hWh Winter. I don't have any specifics on the equipment nor power usage, but the installer said similar to a computer.

Any suggestion on what financial compensation I should request?
LindseyF
(California)

Posts:3


06/17/2021 1:01 AM  
As an added note, recording equipment access to the internet will be via my router.
BillH10
(Texas)

Posts:783


06/17/2021 2:22 AM  
Just say no.

What may be acceptable to you today may not be acceptable to a new owner when you sell and move three years from now.

Further, the HOA should have no access to any app (or anything else) through your router. The integrity of your personal data could be jeopardized.

At a minimum, the HOA should obtain its own internet service and not piggyback on your service. I am not an attorney but there are red flags popping up that you could somehow be dragged into a legal proceeding should the HOA initiate an action against someone based on the video evidence captured through equipment for which you are responsible.

Let the HOA place the equipment on association owned property, served through electric and internet services for which the association itself is responsible. I realize doing so will change the cost model but so be it.

JohnT38
(South Carolina)

Posts:794


06/17/2021 4:22 AM  
I agree with Bill's comment below. I could also see a scenario where an angry homeowner is banging on your door demanding access to the equipment.

"I am not an attorney but there are red flags popping up that you could somehow be dragged into a legal proceeding should the HOA initiate an action against someone based on the video evidence captured through equipment for which you are responsible."
KerryL1
(California)

Posts:8729


06/17/2021 9:13 AM  
Agree with Bill & JohnT.
LetA
(Nevada)

Posts:1466


06/17/2021 1:48 PM  
I would pass and say no. Too much liability.

How many gates are there you your community? How far is one or more gates from the pool house or club house? Get an IT specialist that is knowledgable about network bridges. You DO NOT NEED individual internet connections for each set of gates. Don't let someone tell you you do. A properly installed network bridge will beam a wifi signal from it's host point to each set of gates with a small wifi yagi antenna.
There are small air cooled IT cabinets that hang on the wall to house the equipment. If you have a decent cellular signal at your property you can run the whole smash from a wifi hotspot that has direct LAN connection
SteveM9
(Massachusetts)

Posts:3615


07/04/2021 7:16 AM  
I would request at least $50 month with a contract that is renewed every year. Equipment not to exceed 100 watts which would cost you $160 year. This should cover electricity, internet and loss of space and letting in the maintenance worker when equipment needs to be serviced. If it uses more electricity, I would request more.

Lets say their equipment uses 400 watts, 24/7, that would cost "you" $630 every year in electricity.

Problems I see in the future is discontinuing your cable internet and switching to a mobile internet device. This would leave the HOA black box not working. When you sell, the new owner might not agree to this box, so 1 year contract would allow them to discontinue it.
MikeB23
(Louisiana)

Posts:59


07/05/2021 3:52 PM  
Were I in your position I would just say NO.
MelissaP1
(Alabama)

Posts:10590


07/05/2021 4:53 PM  
Let us not forget the legal position of whom owns the images? If you remember back during the Oscar's years ago, Ellen had Bradley Cooper take a "selfie" with a group of people. The controversy after was whom actually OWNED the images. Ellen asked the picture to be taken but it was Bradley's camera. It was determined the images belonged to Bradley Cooper as it was him that took the picture on his equipment.

This would not be far off from this scenario. Who would own the video/recording equipment etc... I wouldn't get involved. To much putting legal risks.

Former HOA President
EricN3
(California)

Posts:16


07/05/2021 7:32 PM  
i would not get involved with this. let the HOA take care of it. to many legal issues and the camera's are going to need there own router anyways if you ever moved then there SOL and would need to pony up for there own internet anyways
LindseyF
(California)

Posts:3


07/05/2021 11:16 PM  
Thanks for all of your comments, much appreciated.

I withdrew my offer to host the equipment.
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