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LetA
(Nevada)

Posts:1388


05/24/2021 9:57 AM  
Need some clarification on those RFID fob locks.

For those of you that have electronic locks, how well do they work and do they work as I envision?

I envision a system where each FOB has a unique serial number that is assigned to each key holder. I envision this system to be sophisticated enough to tell if the door the system is connected to has been closed all the way and send an audible alarm and a silent alert that the door is open. This system should keep a log of what key holder opens and closes the door, and through process of elimination, one can easily determine who did not close the door.

Does this system exist or is it just a pipe dream?
KellyM3
(North Carolina)

Posts:1775


05/24/2021 10:49 AM  
Posted By LetA on 05/24/2021 9:57 AM
Need some clarification on those RFID fob locks.

For those of you that have electronic locks, how well do they work and do they work as I envision?

I envision a system where each FOB has a unique serial number that is assigned to each key holder. I envision this system to be sophisticated enough to tell if the door the system is connected to has been closed all the way and send an audible alarm and a silent alert that the door is open. This system should keep a log of what key holder opens and closes the door, and through process of elimination, one can easily determine who did not close the door.

Does this system exist or is it just a pipe dream?





What you envision is a typical, fob-based, entrance system that is programmed and maintained through a cloud-based/Internet-connected connection that allows full control of access on a per-fob basis as well as general entrance and exit reports.

Yes, they exist. A security company or sophisticated locksmith shop would be your lead source of information.

Our community uses this type system for our clubhouse and pool gate access. That said, if you must track who's leaving the gate open or propping it open, you'd need to pair with an internet-based camera system to match a visual ID to the actual fob being triggered.

This is VERY doable. We don't have the camera option but were pitched it. The fob system works very well as it's unique to each household. Limit the number of active fobs per household and you'll control a lot of unauthorized access.
LetA
(Nevada)

Posts:1388


05/24/2021 12:04 PM  
Thank You Kelly, according to my PM he just tells me these systems are worthless and no better than a brass key. He goes on to mention how a few of his other properties have these and they do no good.
i am under the impression that he don't know how to use them or structure the system to utilize the system benefits.. The way I envision, magnetic locks can be used to set what time the gates can be entered eliminating the need for guard patrol to padlock the gates at night, nor would they need to be padlocked at the end of season. I feel fobs can be tailored to allow a few master fobs for PM, BOD's, security and pool cleaner unfettered access and disallow others at certain periods of time..


I guess I need to tell my PM in a polite way he's full of "IT" and no I don't mean Pennywise.
KerryL1
(California)

Posts:8525


05/24/2021 2:35 PM  
Our situation is about the same as Kelly's. We limit the # of fobs per unit. Deactivate them when folks move out; lock the pool & gym access at midnight. We have deactivated pool & gym access as a way of withholding privileges for rules violations.

But, you need to sell it to the Board, which you're on, not your PM. Imagine it's pretty easy to look these systems up online. Place on a open board meeting agenda that you seek authorization to research systems for your HOA to bring to the Board for its consideration.
LetA
(Nevada)

Posts:1388


05/24/2021 4:10 PM  
I suppose a FOB activated system is no more valuable than a brass key system when you treat the FOB system like a brass key lockset.

I get the impression from our PM that they are just lazy and don't want to invest the time and energy to utilize the systems full potential. And the lazy work it will take to mail a warning letter to the last person to scan the fob lock warning them they need to make sure they close the gate behind them.. It is all about wanting to do their job, or not wanting.
MaxB4


Posts:1210


05/24/2021 4:16 PM  
Posted By LetA on 05/24/2021 4:10 PM
I suppose a FOB activated system is no more valuable than a brass key system when you treat the FOB system like a brass key lockset.

I get the impression from our PM that they are just lazy and don't want to invest the time and energy to utilize the systems full potential. And the lazy work it will take to mail a warning letter to the last person to scan the fob lock warning them they need to make sure they close the gate behind them.. It is all about wanting to do their job, or not wanting.



A solution would be for the board to step up and run the system. How hard can it really be, right?
KerryL1
(California)

Posts:8525


05/24/2021 4:28 PM  
LetA, as a board member does the rest of the board support your HOA having such a system?? It's not the PM's decision to make.
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