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GregM14 (Washington)
Posts: 81
Posted:
I am relatively new to the HOA board. We have several big (~$50,000) projects that we are working on. I have volunteered to be the focal for one of them, and this is my experience:

a) Initiate project
b) Hire landscape architect
c) Landscape architect creates preliminary design
d) Board reviews and scales back to reasonable amount
e) Landscape architect creates guesstimate for budget
e) Landscape architect creates final design
f) Project goes out to bid
g) Bids come back and are reviewed by board
h) Board makes decision on whether to proceed with project.

My concern is that trying to accomplish (a) through (g) has consumed a huge amount of time, yet I have little feedback for sure that we are going to move forward with the project. Rather I hear comments like "costs too much!" and "get more bids".

While I understand that it isn't until the final bids come in and someone can sign a contract that a decision was made, it would seem inefficient for a volunteer to spend 50 hours and 3 months working on moving a project forward only to have it nixed at the final step. In fact, if we as the board don't move forward, I probably won't be volunteering again because I have other things to do than spend a lot of hours trying to put projects together that aren't moved forward.

Wondering how other boards have handled this type of situation? How can I get a financial commitment up front, so we know for sure that we are willing to spend (say $50,000) on a project starting in the beginning?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Here is one major thing I see that can cause issue. What is the HOA responsible for? Is this project fall into that definition?

Our HOA the ONLY responsibility we had was to provide lawncare. That was it. Lawncare is typically May to October here. So contracts had to be signed around April yearly. So it's good to have an assigned month when contracts are due.

So the question is if this project is a "special" project or a "required" one. Are you putting in a feature or taking care of a feature? That may factor in with your time line for completion. A special project may take a special assessment to pass to complete. A maintenance item not so much.

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CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
I think you've tried to tackle too much at one time. A project should consist of multiple steps, as you outlined, but there should be an evaluation or go-no go decision at each step before proceeding further. You may also need to stop and revisit previous steps and correct/rethink if you discover you've overlooked something or some new info comes to light.

1: What is the scope of the project? What exactly do you want to accomplish? The board needs agreement here.

2: What is your budget? Obviously 1 and 2 need to be in alignment. The board needs to agree here.

3. Produce a detailed list of items to be done, along with priorities for each. You may want to add a tentative budget amount for each, but that's probably not needed as long as you come in under budget for the whole project. If you're doing preliminary cost estimates and you find that one item is going to eat up most of your budget, you may need a rethink. The board needs to be aware if the agreed upon budget probably won't cut it, and they should agree with your suggested priorities (eg: sealing a brick monument at the community entrance to prevent water damage is more important than seasonal flowers). Either the budget needs to be increased, or the item list needs to be scaled back. The board should agree with the final list of items.

4. Then it's time to start looking at bids, and take a good, hard look. Do you really need a landscape architect? They aren't necessarily cheap, and a strict budget limit may mean you can't afford it. I can understand the developer needing one, but we've never had to employ one since the broad strokes are already done - it's minor modifications from here on, unless there's been a major issue like damage from flooding, storms, etc. We've gotten suggested plans from the contractors who are bidding on the work, and the plans are part of their bids. Then it's time to review the bids with the whole board and award the contract to one vendor.

DOCUMENT EVERYTHING, including board approvals for each step and even possible objections. It may seem like overkill, but it actually is helpful to have all of this stuff written down and signed off on in case you get waffling down the road. It will help you decide if it's really just waffling or if a new issue has popped up. Example of a real issue: something urgent comes up which means the money you were planning to spend on landscaping is needed for something else. It can happen, but hopefully you won't get derailed by nothing more than cold feet.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,962
Posted:
Melissa and Cathy give great advice. I would also consider the reserve study recommendations and look for trends in the repairs the association has done within the last year or two - that may help in setting priorities.

Take landscaping. In my community, the association is responsible for trees and the sewer line from the point of leaves the house (we're a townhouse community). Years agw, we were having lots of sewer line repairs due to free foot invasion and so we started thinking of ways to prevent the problem here repairs at $3k and up was a bit much. We realized we had lots of trees on the property and decided to hire an artist to walk through the community and determine which trees were the most problematic and why.

We found some trees were planted too close to the homes, which not only cause the sewer line invasion, but also threatened the roofs of a large branch was to drop on it. The artist told which trees had to go, and from there we got the bids to cut them down. We used many of the same steps you mentioned. Because our budget had to cover other things the massive tree pruning and removal project took about two years.

That's one way you can approach the issue. What needs to be done now vs. next year or later. Current needs can be addressed now and you can research for next year and have a plan ready to go at that time.

It also appears you're doing all the work by yourself, which is unfair. The board should consider commissioning a committee to help. Members could talk parts of the project and then make recommendations to the board.


If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius

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