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DannyR3
(Texas)

Posts:3


10/14/2018 11:11 AM  
Due to the lack of real estate, our community does not and cannot have it's own community pool.
I'm wondering if it's feasible to approach other communities with some sort of partnership agreement that would allow our community to use another's pool?
Any pros or cons?
GenoS
(Florida)

Posts:2960


10/14/2018 12:05 PM  
Doesn't hurt to ask.

Pros: You'd have a pool available.
Cons: There will be conflict and strife sooner or later.
SteveM9
(Massachusetts)

Posts:3237


10/14/2018 1:25 PM  
Its a better idea for individuals to seek an individual membership at the other hoa for those who want to use the pool.

Its a bad idea for your entire hoa to be a member of the pool.
SteveM9
(Massachusetts)

Posts:3237


10/14/2018 1:27 PM  
For example i use the pool at my nearby hotel for $4 per visit. No commitments. Easy.
DouglasK1
(Florida)

Posts:1406


10/14/2018 3:53 PM  
It's doubtful that your association could buy into partial ownership of a common element of another association. You might be able to negotiate a use fee if there is a nearby association with an under used pool, but I don't recall ever reading a any thread here where it has been done.

Make sure to read your CCR's (deed restrictions, covenants, etc.) to see what they specifically say about what association funds can be used for. Some are pretty general (welfare and enjoyment of members, for example), some are more specific and might not leave room for something like this. In any case I would not do this without pretty wide support.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
JohnC46
(South Carolina)

Posts:8347


10/14/2018 3:59 PM  
It can be tricky for an association to allow others (non-association members) to use their pool, especially if they collect revenue for it.
CathyA3
(Ohio)

Posts:256


10/15/2018 6:03 AM  
Posted By JohnC46 on 10/14/2018 3:59 PM
It can be tricky for an association to allow others (non-association members) to use their pool, especially if they collect revenue for it.




In addition to the above, if I were a member of the association with the pool, I wouldn't be happy with the arrangement either:
* over-crowding (I assume the pool was sized for the community it sits in)
* increased liability (affects the HOA's insurance)
* increased wear and tear on the common elements
* increased need for supervision/policing
* at what point does the pool become a public facility and thus run into Fair Housing issues?

In other words, all of the problems and issues fall on the HOA with the pool and all of the advantages are with the outside HOA. It's pretty unlikely that any HOA with a pool would think it's a good idea.


RoyalpitA


Posts:0


10/15/2018 8:55 AM  
Posted By CathyA3 on 10/15/2018 6:03 AM
Posted By JohnC46 on 10/14/2018 3:59 PM
It can be tricky for an association to allow others (non-association members) to use their pool, especially if they collect revenue for it.




In addition to the above, if I were a member of the association with the pool, I wouldn't be happy with the arrangement either:
* over-crowding (I assume the pool was sized for the community it sits in)
* increased liability (affects the HOA's insurance)
* increased wear and tear on the common elements
* increased need for supervision/policing
* at what point does the pool become a public facility and thus run into Fair Housing issues?

In other words, all of the problems and issues fall on the HOA with the pool and all of the advantages are with the outside HOA. It's pretty unlikely that any HOA with a pool would think it's a good idea.






The moment it is 'leased out'.
TimM11


Posts:258


10/15/2018 9:35 AM  
Does your area not have community pools open to the public? Homeowners knew the HOA didn't have a pool when they bought in, so it's not an amenity they should expect.
DannyR3
(Texas)

Posts:3


10/15/2018 11:59 AM  
Thank you for all of your comments. All in all, it looks like the best approach is to pursue the option of approaching local hotels for their pool use.

Thanks again.
KellyM3
(North Carolina)

Posts:1375


10/18/2018 12:09 PM  
Hi Danny,

Sure, you can ask other HOAs. If your town is large enough (and I've never seen this occur), you might coordinate w/ a commercial or YMCA-type facility and get a great discount rate in lieu of managing your pool or negotiating a stake in another HOA's operation.
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