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Subject: Pool and Booze
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NicoleO4


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06/18/2008 10:26 AM  
People.

I need to clarify a few things. We have a tiny pool area, a tiny spa. We have DVR surviellance. The pool... is only 4.0 feet deep at the deepest end! The spa or jacuzzi only seats 4 adults. No we do have a gate monitor that is just plain silly.

You must picture the pool is no larger than 15 ft by 15 ft.. it is more or less a large adult wading pool... just enough room for a floating chaise lounge...

I already spoke to our board. We can ask that no alcohol be in the area, but this rule was just pushed off and kicked out by homeowners vote. Our small pool area is too small to have anyone diving into 4ft or water or having a gate monitor.

I was serious when I posted that I would not walk up to our known condo drunk to inspect his cup. It puts me at risk for egged doors, keyed cars... frankly my volunteer role ends with confrontation of potential drinkers at the pool. I have lived in our cummunity for 8 years.. not once NOT ONCE has there been an alcohol related issue with rowdy peeps or a injury. Our entire pool.. is under DVR recording.
NicoleO4


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06/18/2008 10:32 AM  
Homeowners 55 our of 60 units.. voted NO. Our pool is well covered as a liability and our atty was sending otu a mass email as he does once a month to all his HOA's in regard to pools and alcohol. We just had a few paranoid boards members and a few with deep religious beliefs who wanted to impose this using a liability approach. It blatently did not pass our homeowners or as I said to our board. Our other homeowners have spoken... we all own a share of our complex...
GlenL
(Ohio)

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06/18/2008 10:39 AM  
Then if you'll forgive my bluntness why did you post the question if it has already been decided.
NicoleO4


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06/18/2008 10:56 AM  
Forgiven Glen. It was still being voted on when this was posted. Yesterday was the deadline for HO's to respond. It was overwhelmingly a NO.

I was wondering what other input was as far as enforcement ect. This situation was well under scrutiny by the HO's and board, and the atty Newsletter was for the month of May. It came through just before the June's HOA meeting..
KirkW1
(Texas)

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06/18/2008 8:18 PM  
...We just had a few paranoid boards members and a few with deep religious beliefs who wanted to impose this using a liability approach. ...


Perhaps because I live in Texas I wouldn't put it past the atty to have had the same agenda when he sent the letter. Attorney's are people too and many do have agendas.
GlenL
(Ohio)

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06/18/2008 10:16 PM  
Posted By KirkW1 on 06/18/2008 8:18 PM
...We just had a few paranoid boards members and a few with deep religious beliefs who wanted to impose this using a liability approach. ...


Perhaps because I live in Texas I wouldn't put it past the atty to have had the same agenda when he sent the letter. Attorney's are people too and many do have agendas.



Kirk I absolutely positively agree with you. How could I have been so blind to actually think he was just doing his job and trying to protect his clients? I subscribe to several attorneys' e-newsletters across the country to try and keep up on industry trends. I'll bet they all have some kind of secret nefarious agenda besides protecting their clients and making money. I'll bet they're all members of the Trilateral Commission and the New World Order. Where is Art Bell when we so desperately need him? Can we get him out of retirement to spread the word before the black helicopters from Area 51 come for us all?
BradP
(Kansas)

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06/19/2008 7:50 AM  
Posted By NicoleO4 on 06/18/2008 10:56 AM
Forgiven Glen. It was still being voted on when this was posted. Yesterday was the deadline for HO's to respond. It was overwhelmingly a NO.

I was wondering what other input was as far as enforcement ect. This situation was well under scrutiny by the HO's and board, and the atty Newsletter was for the month of May. It came through just before the June's HOA meeting..





Nicole:

As I posted before there are times when even if there is an overwhelming No among homeowners it still may be wise for the Board to look at enacting certain rules to protect the association. Unless your documents speak differently your board still has the power to enact this rule if they feel it is in the best interest of the association.

Personally if I were in your shoes I would make sure the minutes reflected my thoughts as a board member that I feel it is in the best interest of the association to enact this rule. That would protect me from future liability if someone got hurt at the pool and was drunk and the then the boards refusal to follow the advice of their attorney was entered into the court record.
NicoleO4


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06/22/2008 9:03 AM  
Brad, thanks for your input. It was mentioned, but I feel that this is not the last of this topic
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