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StevenW3
(Oklahoma)

Posts:63

06/08/2008 12:39 PM
Our HOA says they must be kept out of sight when not in use and that no permanent backboards may be put up. This is ignored by all those who have them including the HOA VP. In fact, our HOA doesn't enforce any of the covenants although they will require you to submit and get approval on Architectural issues (outbuildings, paint, fencing, etc.) Cool eh? Don't enforce anything because those in charge of enforcement are in violation...I love it...NOT....

BrianB
(California)

Posts:1591

06/08/2008 1:20 PM
well steve, remember that when you vote.

TracyT
(Maryland)

Posts:220

06/09/2008 6:11 AM
Are basketball hoops (portable or permanent) considered toys? Thanks. Tracy

DonnaS
(Tennessee)

Posts:2299

06/09/2008 11:00 AM
WE CALL THEM RECREATIONAL EQUIPEMENT (hockey nets, skateboard ramps ,backboards for baseball, etc) All must be removed from the streets and put out of view when not in use.

DJ1
(Ontario)

Posts:422

06/10/2008 4:34 AM
I'm disabled so I can't move the goal, or the proposed sandbags. I DEMAND reasonable accomodation to leave my goal in place cause my kid sure as heck can't move it! There is always some example of why a rule doesn't work. Just kidding.

CharlesW1
(Georgia)

Posts:809

06/10/2008 5:06 AM
Posted By DJ1 on 06/10/2008 4:34 AM I'm disabled so I can't move the goal, or the proposed sandbags. I DEMAND reasonable accomodation to leave my goal in place cause my kid sure as heck can't move it! There is always some example of why a rule doesn't work. Just kidding. DJ1 I hear what you’re saying about being “disable”. However, the classification for being disabled ISN’T determined by its severity. Everything from being blind in one eye (manageable) to NOT being able to walk, are all classified as being disabled. Unfortunately, “playing” that card ONLY holds so much water with me! I spend the majority of my day sitting in our office (on the computer), “disabled” as well. Although, yesterday I watched two (2) young boys (maybe 10 years old) drag a basketball goal (portable) out to the curb, as they always do, and started “shooting” hoops. “Where there is will there is a way” I feel that each claim should be reviewed on an individual basis. That way each request (lifestyle, predicament) can be thoroughly reviewed, prior to being approved or denied. Just me two cents! Chuck W.

Charles E. Wafer Jr.

MicheleD
(Kentucky)

Posts:1444

06/10/2008 6:19 AM
Aren't we lucky, then, that our CC&Rs don't allow the basketball goals anywhere near the street for ANYBODY then? If you have a portable basketball goal, you cannot place it any closer to the street than on the home side of the sidewalk.

BryanD2
(Georgia)

Posts:13

06/10/2008 6:39 AM
Since we live in a culdesac, it works great being able to put the goal at the end of the driveway while the kids are playing with it. It's better than having to move cars out of the drive way and in to the street.

DonnaS
(Tennessee)

Posts:2299

06/10/2008 6:52 AM
I agree with Charles on this one. Sometimes the "handicapped" classification is overused. Of course I am not argueing about legitimate ones. But DJ, I wonder if your "kid" has any friends that play with him and they cannot move the hoop? I have seen 8 year olds move those things with no problem so where there is a will, there is a way. I always remind people that even tho your kids want to have free rein to the streets as play areas, there are other people, like us more senior ones, who don't want to navigate around the hoops and the flying kids. How about our not wanting to hear the thumps for hours. Respect for all of the residents, that's all we ask.

DJ1
(Ontario)

Posts:422

06/10/2008 11:07 AM
Posted By MicheleD on 06/10/2008 6:19 AM Aren't we lucky, then, that our CC&Rs don't allow the basketball goals anywhere near the street for ANYBODY then? If you have a portable basketball goal, you cannot place it any closer to the street than on the home side of the sidewalk. I'm sorry Michele but I can't resist this one. We have sidewalks on only one side of the street....and guess which side our house is on? The one with NO sidewalk! Thanks for the laugh.

BryanD2
(Georgia)

Posts:13

06/10/2008 11:11 AM
Posted By DJ1 on 06/10/2008 11:07 AM Posted By MicheleD on 06/10/2008 6:19 AM Aren't we lucky, then, that our CC&Rs don't allow the basketball goals anywhere near the street for ANYBODY then? If you have a portable basketball goal, you cannot place it any closer to the street than on the home side of the sidewalk. I'm sorry Michele but I can't resist this one. We have sidewalks on only one side of the street....and guess which side our house is on? The one with NO sidewalk! Thanks for the laugh. That's too funny... I didn't even catch it before, but we are in the same boat. No sidewalks on our side of the street either!!!

DJ1
(Ontario)

Posts:422

06/10/2008 11:12 AM
Posted By DonnaS on 06/10/2008 6:52 AM I agree with Charles on this one. Sometimes the "handicapped" classification is overused. Of course I am not argueing about legitimate ones. But DJ, I wonder if your "kid" has any friends that play with him and they cannot move the hoop? I have seen 8 year olds move those things with no problem so where there is a will, there is a way. I always remind people that even tho your kids want to have free rein to the streets as play areas, there are other people, like us more senior ones, who don't want to navigate around the hoops and the flying kids. How about our not wanting to hear the thumps for hours. Respect for all of the residents, that's all we ask. Donna, my kid lives in a subdivision where the Developer marketed it as an empty nester community..which explains why some residents are ticked there are a few kids here. Of course one in particular bought a year or so AFTER we were here so for her to complain is ludicrous..had she checked out the neighbourhood beforehand. As far as any friends...we live in a somewhat rural area so my kid frequently plays BB alone. Kind of explains WHY we bought it in the first place, to give em something to do. I can assure you that the sucker is quite heavy and dangerous for an adult to move (we put water in it) at the end of the season. It is NOT something that can safely be done due to the steel pipe. It is the standard type you see at stores today with a plastic hollow base, and ~10' Steel X ~3" diameter pipe.

DJ1
(Ontario)

Posts:422

06/10/2008 11:16 AM
PS Donna, I'm all for respecting ones neighbours but your example of the thump is kind of 'selective'. I don't happen to enjoy the sound of gas lawnmowers but most of my neighbours run them ~couple times a week, then the blowers, then the weedeaters and they surely drown out the thump. Should I expect them to stop? PS Ours is a gardenia 12v rotary.

BryanD2
(Georgia)

Posts:13

06/10/2008 11:24 AM
Posted By DonnaS on 06/10/2008 6:52 AM I agree with Charles on this one. Sometimes the "handicapped" classification is overused. Of course I am not argueing about legitimate ones. But DJ, I wonder if your "kid" has any friends that play with him and they cannot move the hoop? I have seen 8 year olds move those things with no problem so where there is a will, there is a way. I always remind people that even tho your kids want to have free rein to the streets as play areas, there are other people, like us more senior ones, who don't want to navigate around the hoops and the flying kids. How about our not wanting to hear the thumps for hours. Respect for all of the residents, that's all we ask. Donna, Even though all of the kids on our end of the street play in the culdesac, I definitely don't consider it "free rein". At any given time when the kids are playing, there are two sets of parents sitting in drive ways watching them. The rule of thumb is that when they hear someone yell "CAR!!", that is their indication to move immediately to the side of the street and wait until told by an adult that it is safe to resume playing. In regards to respect for others, all of the kids on our street are still young enough that they are usually inside the house before dark. If hearing the "thump" of a basketball or kids laughing and playing chase at 6pm bothers someone, then they really should consider moving in to an "adult only" neighborhood or buy ten acres and build their house right in the middle!!! Every city or county that I have lived in has had ordinances against noise after certain times, and that has been the approach that I have taken on several occasions.

BryanD2
(Georgia)

Posts:13

06/10/2008 11:31 AM
Posted By DJ1 on 06/10/2008 11:12 AM Posted By DonnaS on 06/10/2008 6:52 AM I agree with Charles on this one. Sometimes the "handicapped" classification is overused. Of course I am not argueing about legitimate ones. But DJ, I wonder if your "kid" has any friends that play with him and they cannot move the hoop? I have seen 8 year olds move those things with no problem so where there is a will, there is a way. I always remind people that even tho your kids want to have free rein to the streets as play areas, there are other people, like us more senior ones, who don't want to navigate around the hoops and the flying kids. How about our not wanting to hear the thumps for hours. Respect for all of the residents, that's all we ask. Donna, my kid lives in a subdivision where the Developer marketed it as an empty nester community..which explains why some residents are ticked there are a few kids here. Of course one in particular bought a year or so AFTER we were here so for her to complain is ludicrous..had she checked out the neighbourhood beforehand. As far as any friends...we live in a somewhat rural area so my kid frequently plays BB alone. Kind of explains WHY we bought it in the first place, to give em something to do. I can assure you that the sucker is quite heavy and dangerous for an adult to move (we put water in it) at the end of the season. It is NOT something that can safely be done due to the steel pipe. It is the standard type you see at stores today with a plastic hollow base, and ~10' Steel X ~3" diameter pipe. DJ1, I agree completely... I'm certainly not calling anyone on here a liar, but I would love to see a 10 year old, or even two of them, move a portable basketball goal any distance (especially across grass). I've moved one many times, and I know first hand that even though they have wheels, they are very large, bundlesome, and become very top heavy when empty and leaned over. When full of water or sand, it takes alot just to get one leaned over, and even more strength to get it to move!

DJ1
(Ontario)

Posts:422

06/10/2008 12:09 PM
Check out the safety instructions that comes with them too. I suppose they only put comments like "Do not allow children to move or adjust system", "After assembly is complete, fill system completely with water or sand and stake to the ground. Never leave system in an upright position without filling base with weight, as system may tip over causing injuries." "WARNING! AVERTISSEMENT! WARNUNG! ¡ADVERTENCIA! DO NOT LEAVE ASSEMBLY UNATTENDED WHEN EMPTY; IT MAY TIP OVER. TWO CAPABLE ADULTS REQUIRED FOR THIS PROCEDURE. FAILURE TO FOLLOW THIS WARNING COULD RESULT IN SERIOUS INJURY AND/OR PROPERTY DAMAGE" Even the sandbag suggestion isn't adequate for safe use! Then again, maybe it is just to cover the A** to minimize lawsuits! http://www.academy.com/images/pdf/spalding/72289T.pdf

BrianL
(Maryland)

Posts:22

06/10/2008 12:45 PM
Is it possible that we are talking about 2 different types of portable goals here? We have a portable regulation hoop about 6 yrs. old. We tried filling it with water but it wasn't stable in wind. So we filled it with sand. It took 200 lbs of sand to fill. Im 6'0, ~200 lb weight training guy and I struggle moving that thing on asphalt even with the wheels. No way moving on grass easily. I would love to see the 8 yo that could move it.

MaryA1
(Arizona)

Posts:1556

06/10/2008 3:33 PM
Posted By BrianL on 06/10/2008 12:45 PM Is it possible that we are talking about 2 different types of portable goals here? We have a portable regulation hoop about 6 yrs. old. We tried filling it with water but it wasn't stable in wind. So we filled it with sand. It took 200 lbs of sand to fill. Im 6'0, ~200 lb weight training guy and I struggle moving that thing on asphalt even with the wheels. No way moving on grass easily. I would love to see the 8 yo that could move it. Brian, Portable means, "easily carried or moved". What you've described, IMO, would not be referred to as a portable b/b goal. Semi-permanent at the very least! I believe the portable goals have wheels so they can be moved easier.

DJ1
(Ontario)

Posts:422

06/10/2008 5:58 PM
Posted By MaryA1 on 06/10/2008 3:33 PM Posted By BrianL on 06/10/2008 12:45 PM Is it possible that we are talking about 2 different types of portable goals here? We have a portable regulation hoop about 6 yrs. old. We tried filling it with water but it wasn't stable in wind. So we filled it with sand. It took 200 lbs of sand to fill. Im 6'0, ~200 lb weight training guy and I struggle moving that thing on asphalt even with the wheels. No way moving on grass easily. I would love to see the 8 yo that could move it. Brian, Portable means, "easily carried or moved". What you've described, IMO, would not be referred to as a portable b/b goal. Semi-permanent at the very least! I believe the portable goals have wheels so they can be moved easier. Mary what Brian is referring to is in fact a 'portable bb goal'. Do a search for 'Portable basketball goals' and you will find them at Walmart etc. They come with a base which is supposed to be filled with Sand or Water. ie. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=77583

MaryA1
(Arizona)

Posts:1556

06/11/2008 9:52 AM
DJ, Have you discussed this with Webster? LOL

BradP
(Kansas)

Posts:1742

06/11/2008 10:59 AM
Posted By MaryA1 on 06/10/2008 3:33 PM Posted By BrianL on 06/10/2008 12:45 PM Is it possible that we are talking about 2 different types of portable goals here? We have a portable regulation hoop about 6 yrs. old. We tried filling it with water but it wasn't stable in wind. So we filled it with sand. It took 200 lbs of sand to fill. Im 6'0, ~200 lb weight training guy and I struggle moving that thing on asphalt even with the wheels. No way moving on grass easily. I would love to see the 8 yo that could move it. Brian, Portable means, "easily carried or moved". What you've described, IMO, would not be referred to as a portable b/b goal. Semi-permanent at the very least! I believe the portable goals have wheels so they can be moved easier. Portable is anything that is not a permanent structure. Brian's goal by definition is portable...

JacquelineB2
(Florida)

Posts:19

06/12/2008 4:37 AM
I only know about Florida. We had the same issue because the wind was blowing them in the road and they were also old and unsightly. As long as the goal is in front of someone's home (their responsibility) and is kept in good order.....there isn't a problem. The board can however vote against have any in view if they wish, as long as they give a good reason why. Jackie

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