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LindaM5 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
We have 3 new board members ( HOA in Texas) who have just received majority 3 yea 2 nay votes to store their respective boats at our HOA property at no charge. We currently have a $40 per space rental charge. I feel we are in full violation of our CCR's + our State Not For Profit Charter. Myself and other board member agree; but can not convince these 3 new board members that we are in jeopardy of fractured HOA (due to violated Declaration + By Laws) and with the State of Texas (NFP) because Board members are profiting from position. Has anyone had to deal with this type of arrogance and ignorance on the Board?
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
In most states the directors have a fiduciary duty to the members of the HOA and are liable for the breach of those duties. That means that they may not make decisions that benefit their own interests rather than those of the members.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Here is some info for TX:

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/docs/BO/pdf/BO.22.pdf ... which states:

Sec.A22.221.GENERAL STANDARDS FOR DIRECTORS.

a)A director shall discharge the director ’s duties, including duties as
a committee member, in good faith, with ordinary care, and in a
manner the director reasonably believes to be in the best interest
of the corporation.

(b)A director is not liable to the corporation, a member,
or another person for an action taken or not taken as a director if
the director acted in compliance with this section. A person
seeking to establish liability of a director must prove that the
director did not act:

(1)in good faith;
(2)with ordinary care; and
(3)in a manner the director reasonably believed to be
in the best interest of the corporation.

Acts 2003, 78th Leg., ch. 182, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 2006.
LindaM5 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Thank you for the responses from Colorado. I and the other board member - totally agree with you. We have been discussing this "issue" since 6/9/2010. I as the Secretary have found direct violations to our CCR's and reiterated the Not For Profit State Charter. The listening ears are not on these 3 board members - who are salivating with stars and dollar signs dancing in their eyes. THEY TRULY think that they can do this!!! We only have 3 allocated storage spaces left on property - and they feel they are entitled to have their boats here at no charge (paid for with their monthly dues).

I believe we are liable for a lawsuit - which WILL bankrupt this HOA - and the Not For Profit Charter is in full fracture/violation. I have no idea how to even re-establish that "good standing" with the State and at what expense. They will not listen to reason. We only have 15 other owner/members in our HOA - and I can not acquire "2/3 quorum" 13 votes to suspend or cancel this proposal. Most of our condos are rentals - we only have 36% owner occupancy. I can not even get these 3 "yea" voting Board members to even read our controlling documents. I have advised that our controlling documents are considered "secured collateral" for those with mortgages - they will not even listen to that. I truly believe we are destined for a lawsuit...what do we do if THIS happens and we are a bankrupt, null/voided, and collapsed HOA as a result?
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
If you end up in a lawsuit and no money in HOA then it could be similar to CO where each owner will have a special assessment added to cover costs. You may want to print a copy of just the statute I noted and give a copy to all board members and officers. Just reading a small paragraph may open their eyes, as then they are not reading many pages of text and it hopefully will get the point across. Hopefully they will want to follow the rules ... also I believe in some states if you violate "obligation of good faith" then a director/officer could be personally liable. Read all your state statutes ... here is also a link for Property Codes: http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/?link=PR If all else fails suggest the board and officers consult an attorney.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Linda, take a deep breath, you are not going to lose your NFP status over this. First off, do your CC&R's state that the Board members will serve without compensation? (Hint: Look at the Articles of Incorporation) If they do the case could be made that this is compensation but I seriously doubt anyone is going to sue over it; especially if the other homeowner's are not willing to do anything now. If someone should sue the D&O insurance would either pay to defend the suit or decide that the three acted outside the bounds of the CC&R's and not defend them in which case they would be responsible for their own defense. Even if the other party were to prevail the most they could reasonably expect to win is $40 from each Board member & costs for how ever long they took advantage of the policy and the money would more than likely be due the HOA. Just make sure your objections to this policy are noted in the minutes.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
LindaM5 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Thank you Janet and Glen. This proposal was first voted on by email when I was traveling out of the country. They KNEW it would not pass my litmus paper test. Since my return on 7/19 to property - I have repeatedly protested, objected and stated a minimum of 20 Declaration violations and 5 By Laws + confirmed to them our NFP Charter (via By Laws) which specifically STATES that a board member is voluntary (uncompensated) and can not profit from position. We have $2,500 in a "reserve fund" set aside for our property insurance deductible (which also covers Board members). We have $1,500 in the checking account - that is our sad state of financial affairs. I have 4 owners in the "wings" (who have voted "nay") waiting to sue...that is the truth - and they are counting on me (as what seems to be the only sane Board member) to resolve this issue. Obviously our reserve fund will be drained - and an all owner assessment is pending to cover legal expenses - so so Board members can save a menial $40 a month. I have tried everything in my power (as Board and owner) to nip this in the bud...if I could just get everyone to read. I'm dealing with arrogance, ignorance and illiteracy! My Secretarial notes are filled with objections and all of my noted references above. They know they have me over a barrel - due to lack of other owner (quorum) participation and vote.

Glen, I know I need to breathe - but this is tearing my guts out.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
If it comes down to it at some point they will know it was not worth the $40.00 violation per month if they end up being personally responsible for attorney fees and restitution because of a personal violation (in CO it would be both party attorney fees if they loose).

Do not let it tear you up ... if you give them a copy of the statue above regarding their obligation, let them know some homeowners are considering a lawsuit, that the lawsuit could be against them personally, then see if they comply. If they do not do what is morally and ethically right, then you tried your best. Do not take it personally and don't let other individual's lack of morals get you down. You have tried and that is GREAT!!! Sometimes there are those who have to pay the price for ignorance and they do not see the light until they get "spanked".
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Linda,

While I am a strong advocate of board unity, when the other board members are violating the gov. docs and/or state law a line must be drawn. I would recommend taking steps to have these board members recalled or if there is an election coming up soon do all in your power to see that they are not reelected. The members must be told that they are violating the CCRs by not paying these rental fees. The members must be made to understand that a reduced assessment is the same as being paid. Actually there are two violations here: 1) receiving compensation and 2) paying a reduced assessment. I'm sure your CCRs state that EACH member of the assn is obligated to pay assessments and there is no provision to allow reductions for any reason.
LindaM5 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Mary - thank you for your added logic. I assure you I have tried this approach - they have reduced me to a whining woman on my knees - to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE read our documents - they will not heed or read. I made the motion on 9/1 Board meeting to have primary culprit vote removed or resign. No other Board member would 2nd my motion. I have begged other owners to participate - I got 7 out of 13 quorum required. Unfortunately I am dealing with a non caring and IGNORANT bunch of board and owners. I have my 401K invested in my condo here - and have been a Board member since my occupancy for 6 years. These 3 new board members are desperate to get wear me out and get me gone - so they can freelance what they want and when they want it.

I have reiterated the dues/assessment purposes as stated in our CCR's = and all other violations (our Declaration, By Laws and current Property Rules and Regulations) - they don't care - they feel they are immune!

Janet: I specifically provided your recommended State Statute - they will not even read or consider that item either.

HELP - I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN DO TO PROTECT AND DEFEND THIS HOA FROM FINANCIAL BANKRUPTCY AND NFP CHARTER COLLAPSE.

SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Your board members are guilty of Conflict of Interest, since they OK'ed (by voting on a motion) to benefit themselves, monetarily or with exaggerated advantage over other members.

Perhaps they think this is a "perk" for serving on the board.

In any case, you are not in danger of being sanctioned by any government overseer. I doubt if they would even take note of this "violation".

Your power is going to have to comeout via the ballot box. Be sure all Members know that these board members are benefitting themselves by serving on the board.

Documents that particular motion and the vote, so you can share that with all members.

PS you don't mention how boat slips are awarded. Please explain how a member gets access to use them.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Linda ... someone on this forum under (Board not adhering to Court Mediated Settlement) sued their HOA in small claims court. I do not know if that is an option in your state; however, taking it to any court may be your only option if you cannot get them to adhere to the rules or "use the ballot box" to remove from office. This is an issue with HOA's is unfortunately even very obvious misconduct violations end up in court. According you what you have stated there are individuals essentially stealing, yet you cannot call the police or have other avenues to pursue. Instead homeowners need to pay money up front to fight in court (small claims is alot cheaper usually), hopefully win, and hopefully have your legal fees awarded back when you win. Unfortunately at this time in HOA's under current laws he who steals has minor consequences. Ban together with others who feel as you do and see about filing in court if there is no other options; I don't like saying this, but eventually it is the only recourse.
LindaM5 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Thank you to all postings for your wisdom and support.

I have and am following all of your recommendations and leads. Everything I have tried or said HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED AND ARCHIVED (since I became aware of this issue on July 19th - I was traveling out of the country from late June)!

I got the original 7/19 (3 yea 2 nay) vote revoked because one of these 3 yahoos did not pay his dues in July - so I got his "yea" vote disqualified. The one board member did bring his boat on property at no charge during this time frame. I applied a 24 hours "tow notice" (as an authorized officer) because of lapsed "authorization and accommodations by board" to store at no charge for a month. He voluntarily removed it before I called the wrecker - he absolutely HATES ME NOW - and is persistent with this proposal with pure retaliation to me!

I am and have been the only female on this Board since it's inception in 1982.

Regarding our boat storage spaces: We actually have only 2 storage spaces left on property (designated as "extra" spaces not allocated for resident or visitor parking spaces). They are established at $40 per space (as of 2006)- Board approved with requests. 2 storage spaces are occupied and resident owners (non board) are paying $40 each. <(I do have the support of these 2 currently paying owners). These spaces are neat and nested (protecting our required property aesthetics) in the far southeast corner of our property - not visible from main street or anyone's living space view.

The intent of these rogue Board members is to expand our number of "available" spaces to 5 (adding 3 random spaces with storage on the very front row of our property and at our main entry near the units that they occupy). They do not want to store their boats (one is a behemoth boat!) "back in the corner" from their view - they want to see/protect their boats from their entries or balconies.

I just do not not see a way around this without a lawsuit.

The Ripley's Believe It Or Not of this scenario: one of the "yea" Board members serves on 2 other Boards (where he owns property in this community). HE KNOWS BETTER! The other 2 are just plain selfish and stupid - clueless in Dallas on what they are doing.

I'll keep plodding along and praying - that the all owner quorum ballot box prevails - or one of these 3 Board members rescinds.

If there are any other suggestions out there - please send them my way. I am all effort, eyes and ears to resolve this issue -and to save this HOA.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Quote:

I got the original 7/19 (3 yea 2 nay) vote revoked because one of these 3 yahoos did not pay his dues in July - so I got his "yea" vote disqualified. The one board member did bring his boat on property at no charge during this time frame. I applied a 24 hours "tow notice" (as an authorized officer) because of lapsed "authorization and accommodations by board" to store at no charge for a month. He voluntarily removed it before I called the wrecker - he absolutely HATES ME NOW - and is persistent with this proposal with pure retaliation to me!


After a while he will get glad as fast as he became mad. The important thing is you are being fair and abiding by your HOA documents. Either all pay for storage or all get it for free. This was good ... can you do the same thing to the others?

Quote:

The intent of these rogue Board members is to expand our number of "available" spaces to 5 (adding 3 random spaces with storage on the very front row of our property and at our main entry near the units that they occupy). They do not want to store their boats (one is a behemoth boat!) "back in the corner" from their view - they want to see/protect their boats from their entries or balconies.


Are the others storing their boats here in a non-storage area? Does any of this violate any of your local ordinances?

If it persists before hiring an attorney, maybe consider the following state statute:

Sec. 251.103. REMOVAL OF DIRECTORS AND OFFICERS. (a) A director or officer of a cooperative association may be removed from office in the manner provided by the certificate of formation or bylaws of the cooperative association.

(b) If the certificate of formation or bylaws do not provide for the person's removal, a director or officer may be removed with cause by a vote of a majority of the members voting at a regular or special meeting. The director or officer who is to be removed is entitled to be heard at the meeting.

(c) Except as provided by the certificate of formation or bylaws, a vacancy on the board of directors caused by removal shall be filled by a director elected in the same manner provided by the bylaws for the election of directors.

Why pay for an attorney if you and the other homeowners can get offenders removed and replaced.

LindaM5 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Janet: You are a wizard, a wonder woman and my new best friend! I did not consider City Ordinances investigations! I am on that like a bear on honey first thing Monday morning!! I'm hoping there is something that will PROHIBIT/RESTRICT main street or main entry (negative view or impediment) storage. I LOVE YOU!

We have to abide not only by our CCR's but City and State laws. Outstanding recommendation!

Our CCR's also state that we must protect property "aesthetics" without nuisance of any vehicle - but of course I can not get them to read or heed.

Also - our current boat storage (2 boats) are being paid $40 a month each to our Discretionary account (we utilize these funds primarily for maintenance). There are no current violations with the existing storage.

Our CCR's specifically state that dues/assessments CAN ONLY BE UTILIZED for common element expenses or maintenance. "Storage" can not be free or part of our dues. Our CCR's specifically state that we can charge a reasonable storage rate- which we have done since 2006 @ $40 which is way below current market value.
TishS (Washington)
Posts: 116
Posted:
You know who else cares about this? The IRS! Depending on you budget the IRS would love to declare you a for profit coporation, instead of a non profit..it does not take to much to screw up your non profit status with the IRS and it is even easier for a disgruntled member to report the HOA. I think the form number is 3949-A.

The board needs to realize this is not a joke, trust me they would sure rather pay 40.00 than pay IRS fines and back taxes..which they may be personally liable for.

Too many BOD forget the to read the IRS rules and regs they are very specific about what you can and cannot do. They are available online. Every board member should read them especially anyone with signing authority
on the HOA accounts
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
I do not believe that this will change the HOA's status to a for profit corporation but I would make sure the members wanting this perk know that the HOA will issue them 1099's for their "wages" and they will need to pay taxes on the amount. Granted it will not increase their tax burden by a lot but it will complicate their returns a little more and who knows the $480.00 might just push them into a higher bracket.

Yes, I know that 1099's are not required for amounts under $600.00, that does not mean they cannot be issued.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
LindaM5 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Tish: FYI - I have also referenced to them the IRS "tax" penalties if they receive any compensation from this HOA by being a Board member. Guess who doesn't care????

Glen: You are a wise man - I know you have advised me to "breathe" and relax - but how can I really/truly - LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS???

I have also strongly recommended as the Secretary and as an owner - to take this issue to all owners. Guess again who will not even consider that option???

This nonsense has been going on since June 9th - it is now September 12th. Facts: we already offer boat storage (we are the only HOA in this large lake community that even offers it!); we have storage space available - the ONLY snag is that they want it for free.

They are now calling me the "Board Bitch" - and claiming that I am deliberately deterring and interfering - because "I" don't want boat storage here. This has not been a personal issue for me - but it about to become one.

I am highly suspect that these 3 rogue culprits will vote me off the board in our next meeting. But they will never take my ownership rights away from me. I'll fight for what is right until they carry me off in a hearse and put me in the pyre.

MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Linda,

Just out of curiosity, what tax penalties are you talking about. I know of no tax penalties, but these board members would certainly have to claim this as income, although they probably won't. You could get back at them by making certain your CPA prepares 1099s for them, that is if you can.
TishS (Washington)
Posts: 116
Posted:
To maintain your tax exempt status, one of the conditions is that the board members must not personally benefit from their position on the board to any extent more than another member of the HOA. Granted you may be able to get away with saying we did not know and it was only a 40.00 fee, but since it appears they have already been put on notice that this is wrong, I think you would be hard pressed to say you did not know.

When the IRS gets hold of a bone they do not stop until they uncover the whole skelton in the closet. They really do not like it when people ignore their rules..trust me I have participated in several audits over the years.

Of course your HOA may not be tax exempt and the only issue would be filing a 1099, but I really have not heard of an HOA intending on being for profit, but I have heard of them becoming one because they screwed up.

The IRS loves corporations, because they will collect either from the corporation or the individual(s) they find finacially liable for the screw up.
LynetteB (Texas)
Posts: 141
Posted:
Linda,
Does your association have a fairy godmother to provide maintenance to the HOA property the boats are using? It costs money to maintain a boat dock and from what you have stated, you have very little. Those who won't band with you to stop this should be digging in their pockets to go ahead and pay it. I assume the dues are to cover the cost of maintaining the boat storage as well. Those who are not paying for use are essentially making all other members pay for their use.
With the lack of money your association has, there is no way to consider a lawsuit unless it comes out of your own pocket. You would be cheaper off paying it yourself.
At our public lake, owners of docks have to pay a fee to the Brazos River Authority just to have a dock. (average of $200 per year I think)
Your board members should be leading by example. The example they are setting is to take what you want, and don't pay your fees. How long are thier terms?
Good luck.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Tish,

First of all I don't recall the OP stating her assn is tax exempt. Being a nonprofit corp does NOT mean you are tax exempt; they are two totally different entities. Also being a nonprofit corp does not mean you cannot turn a profit in any given year.

Secondly, I'm curious where you got this info: "To maintain your tax exempt status, one of the conditions is that the board members must not personally benefit from their position on the board to any extent more than another member of the HOA." The IRS will make a determination as to whether or not an HOA may be granted tax exempt status. Some of the requirements are: the assn must show evidence that 1)it is a benefit to the community; 2) its facilities are open to the general public; 3) it does not engage in exterior maintenance of private homes.
TishS (Washington)
Posts: 116
Posted:
Mary, Excess Benefit transactions are covered on the IRS website under non profits corporation rules. You can do a search on this term and it will lead to the topics regarding them and all the relating issues..the IRS has alot to say regarding this issue.

I agree that if you are not taking advantage of the tax benefits specifically set up for tax exempt organizations, the fact the board is getting added benefits is really a community issue, however if you are taking advantage of these tax exempt rules..you would want to be very careful and stay in compliance with the IRS rules.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Tish,

First of all, when the IRS speaks of nonprofits they are really speaking about tax-exempt orgs. The Excess Benefit Transaction rules only apply to tax exempt orgs. But, evenif the OP's HOA has tax-exempt status, I doubt that the $40/mo rental fee that would be regarded as compensation would meet the requirements of the excess benefit transaction. See below from the IRS website -- note that a "disqualified" person would be a director or an officer of the corp or org:

Excess Benefit Transaction
An excess benefit transaction generally is a transaction in which an economic benefit is provided by an applicable tax-exempt organization, directly or indirectly, to or for the use of any disqualified person, and the value of the economic benefit provided by the applicable tax-exempt organization exceeds the value of the consideration (including the performance of services) received for providing such benefit, but see the special rules below. An excess benefit transaction also can occur when a disqualified person embezzles from the exempt organization.

To determine whether an excess benefit transaction has occurred, all consideration and benefits exchanged between a disqualified person and the applicable tax-exempt organization, and all entities it controls, are taken into account.

For purposes of determining the value of economic benefits, the value of property, including the right to use property, is the fair market value. Fair market value is the price at which property, or the right to use property, would change hands between a willing buyer and a willing seller, neither being under any compulsion to buy, sell or transfer property or the right to use property, and both having reasonable knowledge of relevant facts.

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