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CharlesG5
(Florida)

Posts:26

08/12/2010 5:36 AM
I live in a HOA developement with 606 homes. Our Design Review Standards state that there can NOT be any painted driveways. Several homeowners want to change that. If HOA communities have painted driveways, does this help to enhance the community image? Some drivways painted, others not.

MaryA1

Posts:0

08/12/2010 6:04 AM
Charles, It's all in the eye of the beholder! If enough members state their desire to allow painted driveways then perhaps the Design Review Committee will change their standards. Frankly I see nothing wrong with it but the committee should be required to approve the colors.

DonnaS
(Tennessee)

Posts:5671

08/12/2010 6:07 AM
Charles, Living in Florida is not driveway paint friendly. I HATE!!! seeing peeling paint anywhere, especially in a large amount which faces the street. Unless the ARC can enforce regular painting, I see this as a no no.

SureshD

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08/12/2010 6:56 AM
Specify that it must be stained not painted. When the surface is properly prepared (etched) and applied it soaks into the concrete much like the awfull oil stains that are all too common. Mine is going on 7 years with NO defects.

JoanneD1
(Arizona)

Posts:243

08/13/2010 11:08 AM
My HOA has painted driveways and the key to enhancing their appearance is consistency from one property to the next. The way we have done that is worked a special discount with a local vendor. We permit one color, terra cota, and we have a "preferred vendor" and that vendor also gives a 10 year warranty on his work! We had over 30 owners take advantage of the offer this past year. We still have 49 other drives that are in bad shape....faded, dirty from tire marks and in bad shape. We are deciding how to enforce the maintenance issue with these negligent owners. Hope that helps. IMO the best drive surface would be an exposed aggregate or even a paver which is pretty pricey.

PeterB1
(Florida)

Posts:254

08/13/2010 4:04 PM
Donna is correct - painted driveways in Florida don't work! We have big problems trying to get people to maintain their painted driveways. And nothing looks worse that a peeling or worn driveway. Remind your Board what will happen after the paint goes on.

LjcL
(Florida)

Posts:2

08/16/2010 9:53 AM
Would appreciate advise on this. Live in a community of 62 single family homes. House paint colors, trim, doors, etc & driveway stain colors blend or have a color scheme. A neighbor across the street has a grey roof, grey house color, grey trim, grey front door & grey driveway. I just returned from being away for two weeks & they have stained their driveway "brick red". When I spoke with the Management company I was told 2 out of 3 ARC members approved the color. The ARC form did not have a color chip just the wording of "like (a neighbor's name & house #). Our board meets this week. I have sent a letter opposing this outrageous color. Also, from what I am told there are no immediate plans for this neighbor to change the house color or roof color. Any suggestions as I plan to attend this board meeting with other neighbors who dislike the color. The community has always been consistent with approving appropriate color schemes.

JoanneD1
(Arizona)

Posts:243

08/16/2010 10:12 AM
Architectural committees are only as good as the members on the committee and only as good as your guidelines. Get something in writing as to the paint colors and even the brand of paint that must be used if you are really particular about controling the exterior appearance of your complex. Set some stiff fines and remedies if the owner violates and if the committee is not working in the best interest of the community.....remove them. All of this creates turmoil but it will be worth it if consistency and well maintained properties equal good property values. Even in these tough times, you have to be vigilant about your property appearance.

SureshD

Posts:0

08/16/2010 10:15 AM
You'll need to review your HOA's published ARC guideline document(s). Given recent Florida legislation, if the allowed (or dis-allowed) colors (for anything) are not specified in the guidelines the committee would have NO grounds to reject it. (You were not specific if such guidelines existed.)

LjcL
(Florida)

Posts:2

08/16/2010 11:41 AM
Thanks for the response. As far as specific guidelines, I need to look into such specifics with BOD. I do know that if/when colors have been approved by the ARC or BOD, other residents have automatically been approved for that same color, not to say it should or does blend with their house color scheme. In this case, the "brick red" is an existing approved color for another resident's home, therefore, is why the mention of the resident's name & house number. But again, did not submit a color chip. It is my opinion or common sense the grey with the brick red looks like an eyesore in the community to say the least. The name & house# referenced on the ARC form for the color chosen happens to be an ARC member & Board member.

JoanneD1
(Arizona)

Posts:243

08/16/2010 12:48 PM
Whoops! In our HOA, we do not permit Board members to be on any of the committees for the simple reason that is something comes up that would cause the owner to appeal an issue to the board, the Board will review with a fresh eye and without prejudice. Unfortunately, this issue if challanged will be stickier because of the owner being on the committee. Joing the ARC committee and get some of your supporters to also!

DonnaS
(Tennessee)

Posts:5671

08/16/2010 1:25 PM
As Joanne just said, having a Board member on the ARc or ACC is not in the best interest of that committee in the event of an appeal which normall would go before the Board. Therefore a Board member also on the ARC has in reality, 2 votes against an approval. We have 1 Board member that is assigned to act as Board Liaison to the committee. No votes as he sits as an observer. But now Florida has some very specific Statutes on how the committee operates. All design elements and standards, along with colors and materials must be SPECIFICALLY stated in your guidelines. For instance, if colors are limited, the guidelines MUST say exactly what colors or color range any paint must be. If it specifys fencing, the guidelines must say-6 foot height, materials must be aluminum , black only or whatever. That would mean no wooden or white fencing and it MUST be 6 foot in height. Look up the Florida Statutes 720, specifically 3035-(2) It tells you that if you follow the specifics outlined in you documents, the committee nor the Board may prohibit you from using what you have chosen. This is a new addition from 2007 or 08 and many Boards do not keep up to date on the Statute changes, therefore would not be aware of this change.

MaryA1

Posts:0

08/16/2010 3:06 PM
Ljcl, I'm sure there will always be some members who won't like the colors some homes are painted, and in this case the driveway color. However since the brick red is an approved color and it was approved by the ARC or BOD there really is nothing you can do about it. There is a house in my community with a trim color that I think does not match the brick on the home, but there isn't anything I can do about that. I'm not on the ARC. If you are so concerned about this then I suggest you seek an appointment to the ARC. BTW, the fact that a paint chip was not provided is absolutely meaningless! And, although I cannaot see the house in question, I cannot imagine why a red brick driveway would not blend with a grey house w/grey roof. Grey is a neutral color that goes with pretty much any other color. Just because it doesn't suit your taste doesn't mean it shouldn't have been approved.

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