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GautamV
(California)
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| 08/03/2010 12:17 PM |
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I am on the board of a California HOA with a rental policy. Homeowners must keep their unit as their primary residence, and cannot rent out their unit for more 12 months in any five-year period. There is an owner, who has been fined numerous times for violation of the CC&Rs on many different counts, who appears to have bought a new home in a neighboring town and has been renting out his unit for several years. The owner claims that these people are "roommates" (about which our CC&Rs say nothing). How can we prove that the owner is not living in the unit? The renters appear to forward mail to him, although no one has seen him in years. Our management company and their attorney have not been helpful.
Beyond the fact that the owner is extremely difficult and a drain on HOA resources, this is an issue because there is a long waiting list to buy in our community. By allowing this person to rent while living elsewhere in violation of the CC&Rs, he is depriving others of the chance to buy.
By the way, I should add we don't want to amend the CC&Rs to forbid people from renting rooms--we have several single people who live in large units and rent rooms, and they cause no trouble for anyone.
Thanks for any advice. |
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GlenL
(Ohio)
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| 08/03/2010 1:53 PM |
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| You could hire a private detective to follow him. Also you might check with the County, in several States rental property must be registered with the State, usually through the County. |
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SteveM9
(Massachusetts)
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| 08/03/2010 2:39 PM |
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The owner claims that these people are "roommates"
LOL, thats a great one. You can basically make as many CCR's as you want, people will always find a way around them. Its human nature. |
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GautamV
(California)
Posts:2
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| 08/08/2010 10:30 AM |
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| Thanks for your advice! |
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JackB8
(Virginia)
Posts:105
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| 08/08/2010 4:42 PM |
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| The postal service often gets mail from organizations which need to know what the disposition of mail for specific people is. Carriers complete the form by indicating whether the person's mail is delivered to that address, forwarded, not known or "other". You might try getting the info through your local post office. The carriers know who lives there and who not not (usually). |
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JackB8
(Virginia)
Posts:105
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| 08/08/2010 4:45 PM |
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| I ALSO WONDER HOW THEY FORWARD MAIL TO HIM IF NOT THROUGH THE POSTAL SYSTEM. |
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RogerB
(Colorado)
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| 08/09/2010 6:56 AM |
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Gautam, You stated "By the way, I should add we don't want to amend the CC&Rs to forbid people from renting rooms--we have several single people who live in large units and rent rooms, and they cause no trouble for anyone."
If the owner claims their unit as a primary residence and claims to have "roommates" and other owners are being allowed to rent out rooms I think you may not prevail in Court.
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DonnaS
(Tennessee)
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| 08/09/2010 11:25 AM |
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Gautam,
Can you see what I think is murkey waters? You allow someone with a large unit to rent out rooms but you do not allow an owner to rent out all of his rooms/aka unit? Both are claiming the "room mate" use.
If I were advising your Board, I would either remove the entire rental wording as you have it written. You have no more than once for 12 months in a 5 year period. I see way to much record keeping , trying to monitor who is in, who is out and for how long.
If you insist on having a rental policy, there are much simpler ways to restrict rentals. The way yours is written, it is selective allowance and that is not a wise thing for any Board to handle in case of a lawsuit. |
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