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JohnS25
(Florida)

Posts:56

07/27/2009 12:23 PM
PLEASE------somme one that belongs to a HOA that is have problems sign in; I no I'm not alone here. Folks get on the internet and read some of the posts of the HOA's that have gone wild and how some of the folks have even lost there homes from a management firm and the presidents and BOD's like I have here. There run like consintration camps and there is little that seems to stop them. those that have been there know; those that haven't; haven't a clue.

JohnO6
(Georgia)

Posts:415

07/27/2009 12:25 PM
Posted By DonnaS on 07/27/2009 12:18 PM JohnS25, OKAY!!!! I THINK THAT THIS THREAD HAS OVER RUN COMMON SENSE TO END. NOW IT IS GETTING DOWN TO FISHING FOR SOMETHING TO SAY... BE DONE, EVERYONE... Amen. Let's hope the sounds of silence are deafening.

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:5164

07/27/2009 12:48 PM
Posted By DonnaS on 07/27/2009 12:18 PM JohnS25, OKAY!!!! I THINK THAT THIS THREAD HAS OVER RUN COMMON SENSE TO END. NOW IT IS GETTING DOWN TO FISHING FOR SOMETHING TO SAY... BE DONE, EVERYONE... ************************* Amen. Let's hope the sounds of silence are deafening. ********************************* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is the sound of silence >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is Amen

FrankN
(Texas)

Posts:15

07/27/2009 12:56 PM
JohnS25 As president of my HOA, if presented with a similar set of circumstances, I would immediately call a special meeting of all property owners to cover the following: 1. Present the exact $ amount of our loss or potential loss. 2. Outline what actions are being taken to recover the loss, filing an insurance claim, a civil suite or criminal action. 3. Outline what steps are being taken to preclude a similar problem from happening in the future. 4. Present a budget for the “special assessment” that will be needed to fund the HOA for the remainder of the fiscal period. I would send a letter to the President demanding a special meeting. Assuming you receive no reply, get a petition signed by as many of the property owners as you can, present this to the President, again assuming no reply I’m confident an attorney could get a judge to issue a summary judgment ordering the President to call the special meting. No where in this excruciatingly long thread have no mentioned what actions the other property owners have taken or have proposed to take.

JohnS25
(Florida)

Posts:56

07/27/2009 1:43 PM
Please ---one last thing, as soon as I can get it. I will post Mr. Buxtons email address anyone have a question; may email him directly.

JohnS25
(Florida)

Posts:56

07/27/2009 1:48 PM
Heres Buxtons email address: bbuxton@erabuxton.com knock yourselves out

JohnS25
(Florida)

Posts:56

07/27/2009 3:33 PM
Quote: No where in this excruciatingly long thread have no mentioned what actions the other property owners have taken or have proposed to take. I feel I must answer this: frank you HAVEN'T READ THE POSTS if you look back a few posts you will see it. advice: put brain in gear before engaging mouth. I'm -----------done---------I will ----------not-------reply to any future posts--------------period.

GlenL
(Ohio)

Posts:3622

07/27/2009 3:39 PM
Things not going your way? Take your ball and go home. In case it has escaped your notice JohnS25 this is not a place to whine and complain about the unfairness of HOA's; this is a place that looks for solutions.

Your board meeting is not held in the Situation Room of the White House. It's not life or death. Let people in, keep it positive, then go home and get a good night's sleep. If you hold off drinking until after the meeting, instead of before or during, you're probably doing OK. JosephW

EllenS1
(Florida)

Posts:1148

07/27/2009 3:51 PM
John06, You won't have to ignore John25's posts from now on. Didn't he claim more than once he was done and would let the law handle all this mess? Why don't I believe him. This is his recreation.

MichaelK11
(Texas)

Posts:432

07/27/2009 11:01 PM
Good approach, FrankN; I agree with your basic principles. Some comments on meeting details: I don't think a Court would necessarily assume the authority to do this, but Court action should not be necessary. I expect that most HOA Bylaws provide for meetings to be called by the Membership. Ours require written request of 60% of the Members to call a Special Meeting of the HOA Membership that has not been called by the Board. If you get that many signatures, then I think you can simply call the meeting by following the notice requirements in the Bylaws. In the process of getting the signatures to request the meeting, you will also educate your neighbors about the situation and generate interest in attending the meeting. Where in TX is your HOA, please? As to the problems with this thread, I encourage everyone who finds a thread pointless -- if you find many posts incoherent and non-responsive after pointing this out -- simply stop posting. I'd much rather let someone else have the last word than keep exchanging words in such a situation. I think the consensus is clear; I think it was obvious in any event how most of us would view this. Further support and confirmation is unnecessary.

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:5164

07/28/2009 6:14 AM
Frank and Micheal, You both, along with others have posted some good stuff about dealing with a problem of this nature. It is just too bad it got caught up in a lot of things that muddied the waters. It is an important subject and if you like, maybe someone would want to post the subject as a hypothetical on a new post. If we can get the names out of it, things might clear up. I think that Franks comment of what he would do if he, as president, is the kind of thing that would be helpful. Of course Michaels comments serving as a sounding board is also productive.

FrankN
(Texas)

Posts:15

07/28/2009 6:25 AM
Michaelk11 Ours is a little Podunk HOA in Hempstead TX, about 50 miles northwest of Houston

PeterB3
(Florida)

Posts:1

08/31/2009 10:23 AM
JohnS25 - Unbelievable. But I can imagine the frustration, as I once lived in one of the condos caught up in this latest scam. We lived with a lot of the typical B.S. residents in condos face. But when the Board opted to change Property Management firms to a firm that was just getting started, we got very concerned. In just the first few months, several "red flags" caught our attention that it might be time to consider moving on. One - there was absolutely no transition between the two property management firms....the Board did not require or follow up on it! So all references to past actions by the Board and filed by the previous Property Management was "lost" for the most part unless a Board member pulled it out of their personal files. Pending repairs already assessed for had not been completed. When we called about the status, we were always told we'll have to look into as they didn't have any information about it. During a meeting to discuss the building's finances as it relates to yet another assessment, the Property Mgmt and Board could not answer questions about pending reserves. Their reply, "I didn't bring that information with me." Duh!!! When you call a meeting of the unit owners to discuss financing for YET another assessment....one of the FIRST items on the agenda should be CURRENT BALANCES, RESERVES AND MONIES!! After that meeting, we listed our condo for sale. It was a good move on our part especially since one of the named associations in this whole debacle is where I lived. We had a hunch that it would only get worse and our hunch was right on! Unfortunately, while board members try to do the very best they can, their experiences are so limited. It really does take someone with broad business experience, objectivity & knowledge to understand the intricacies of managing multi-million dollar complexes. Unfortunately, there's a "good-old-boy" image in this area.

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