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MariaS4 (Georgia)
Posts: 1
Posted:
The Developer we have here is the second one in two years. He is also a builder in our community. He and his wife have informed us that they are "opting out" in November, and that they will become "non-declarant" and the community will be going back to the bank (whom they are personal friends with the President). They want to turn over the "HOA" to the homeowners, but my question is how can they do that when there are only 13 of us? Not to mention, we feel there is some deceit on their part.. When they "took over" we never got any new paperwork from them or anything, the previous Developer did not go bankrupt they just bailed out on this community. Apparently, the current developer said that they "helped bail them out" of a bad situation. We know of several liens against them on their homes they are building (of which none are finished) as well as on our clubhouse...They say there is no money to pay the bills, and they are not putting anymore money into the community.

We are not sure we should even entertain taking this thing over and rather just let the bank have it. The Developer said his wife would stay on, but they wanted us to form an LLC. The Developer also said "we don't want it to go back to the bank, as they will hire a management company and assess everyone", for what I am not sure. Can they do that?

There is no BOD, there has been no evidence of a real budget, only a piece of paper typed up as to what they have spent and what they say the bills are. They were offended that we even asked to see a budget....we have not seen any financials, they tried to add one of the homeowners to the bank account but then he retracted which got them mad.

Some of the residents want to hire an attorney, but is this even necessary at this point? If the bank takes it back, they will do minimal upkeep we know that, but they are also going to try to sell it to some other poor soul, right? Just like what is happening all over the country. We are just afraid if we do take it over, the community will never have enough money to run it properly, as there are only 14 of us on a 100 acres of land. PLUS all of their liens etc. This community will sit for a while. If the bank takes it back, there is no HOA right? And therefore no dues to be paid right? The developer has told us they are leaving, but still wants our dues.... we are thinking he will just take the money and run. Several projects they promised or started, are not completed and they are out of here in a month. What are our rights and should we attempt to intervene? Or are we just asking for a boatload of trouble by doing so? Shouldn't we leave well enough alone and let the bank do their thing? Can liens be placed on us by the bank if our dues are not paid?
Thanks!

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DanaH2 (Georgia)
Posts: 7
Posted:
We are in GA as well. Our developer bailed too. He is still building in his other communities. There are only 24 of us with 17 lots left. Our lots went back to the bank in summer, 2008. The bank did nothing. They took no responsibility for cutting the overgrown lots, etc. The builder, who is still the declarant, did nothing either. Our management company spent our money and could not pay for landscaping. They were also "offended" that we asked for an itemized bill showing where our money went ($1700 per home for lawn and gates). The builder refused to release the HOA to us. We are not even sure that he has the authority to be the declarant since he no longer owns any property in the neighborhood. We, the homeowners, have chipped in and paid for basic landscaping of common areas and kept up our own. Now things get interesting..............The empty lots were just purchased from the bank by a large, well know, non-custom builder. Apparently this deal was made without the homeowners being informed. You can imagine how surprised, and angry we were. The new builder is plastering "grand opening" of our neighborhood all over it's website and we have no idea what is happening. We made a visit to their corporate office and made them aware of our concerns. They called a meeting in our neighborhood showing the floorplans , which were pathetic. The declarant approved everything (because he doesn't care). We are blown away that we have no say in the matter. This builder is coming into "our" neighborhood and building starter homes from the 290K's. We live in an upscale Alpharetta neighborhood of homes from $500-$600K. I know how you feel. My question to you is "why do you need to form a LLC?" That should have been formed by your original developer. You shouldn't have to do it twice. Why do you think the bank will hire a management company? Our bank was completely uninvolved to the point of negligence. If you builder wants to hand you the HOA. Take it, vote on members and manage it yourselves (much cheaper than a management company). If not, when a builder does come in and buy those lots, you will have architectural control over what they build. I The second builder you mentioned.......did they pay the intitiation fee to the HOA on each lot they purchased? I know it is a lot of debt. We have over 50K of debt from our builder as well. I'm not sure that is something you can avoid. I also heard that any leins on your homes expire in 1 years time. We are hiring a lawyer at this point to get control of our HOA or create a parallel one HOA. You may want to seek legal council as well. It's otherwise too complicated to figure out. Good luck.

Dana
Alpharetta
GeorgerwilliamsW (Indiana)
Posts: 975
Posted:
At some point a purchaser who buys into a covenant community that does not have adequate protections against the potential of changes in development standards is asking for trouble.

You have invested a great deal of money into your home with little protection up front. That was not a good deal then, and an even worse deal now. You have to accept responsibility for placing yourself in this position. You assumed the risk by choosing this community and this developer without adequate protection.

As long as purchasers are willing to invest in homes in covenant communities that give the declarant complete control, situations like this will continue. Only when purchasers begin to decline to purchase homes in covenant communities without adequate protection against this kind of risk, will developers begin to incorporate changes into covenant documents.
DanaH2 (Georgia)
Posts: 7
Posted:
Developers don't have covenants drawn up to protect their potential home buyers. They do it to protect themselves from responsibility. Have you read your covenants lately?

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