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SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,963
Posted:
Last month, the president of our property management company attended our board meeting to give us an overview of our financial situation - basically, between several major repairs and increasing delinquencies, it's a mess. At that time, I said when we started preparing next year's budget, we would likely have to consider increases of at least 3% (the board can raise it up to 5% from the current year's fee).

Well, things have just gotten even messier - during Labor Day weekend, another home was hit with tree root damage to the plumbing system (third time this year). We don't have the final estimate of repairs, but at last count, the costs will be at least $9K. We had to take a huge amount out of reserves last month to finish paying for major repairs from a fire, so there's no help there. I spoke with our board president last night (I'm treasurer) and we both think the time has come for a special assessment.

We'll have more information when the board meets in two weeks, but I'm thinking we need to start planning a homeowner's meeting to explain what's going on and what our options are (we need 75% approval from the homeowners for a special assessment). At this time, our options are (1) raise the fee to 5%, (2) get homeowner approval to raise the rate 8% (that's what the bylaws allow) or (3) do the special assessment to get us past this hump.

Beyond that, I would like to set up a special strategic planning committee that would look at ways to deal with some of our fundamental problems and come up with a long term plan of attack, as well as cut next year's budget as much as possible (which will happen regardless).

My question to all of you is - did your community have to institute a special assessment and if so, how did you communicate that with the homeowners so they would be more likely to sign off on the deal? Any ideas regarding strategic planning and budget cuts is also welcome.

(and in case you're wondering, yes, we've taken more agressive steps to collect delinquencies during the last three years and will be reviewing the policy yet again, as well as consult with our attorney on what else we can do. Right now, I'm thinking of proposing that we double fees for every month the assessment remains unpaid and looking to hire another law firm that specializes in collections so we can refer some of the more troublesome cases)

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
GeorgerwilliamsW (Indiana)
Posts: 975
Posted:
Sheila, Have you considered borrowing, rather than a special assessment? Would borrowing be an option if the special assessment did not pass?
PatrickH (California)
Posts: 204
Posted:
Hi Sheila,

George's idea about borrowing money is something you should look at. You still might need a special assessment to pay it back, but the monthly amounts for each owner is smaller and stretched out over a longer time period than one big assessment, which mght be especially tough to get approved in these tough times.

One major thing: communicate, communicate, communicate. You need to be totally open and honest with the membership about the financial situation and why a loan and/or special assessment is needed. If the members feel that you are doing everything you can in their best interests, they will be much more likely to agree with your suggestions.

My HOA did a special assessment about five years ago to pay off a loan to replace all the wood fences in our HOA with vinyl fences. We spent about nine months researching and analyzing everything about the idea and had regular meetings with the membership to keep them informed about everything. Since vinyl fencing is about twice as expensive as wood fencing, we had half the money in Reserves and planned a loan for the other 50%.

We kept everyone informed as we got bids for both the fencing and the loan so everyone knew how much the project would cost, how much the loan would cost and how much the special assessment would be. By the time it came to a vote of the membership, the special assessment was approved by almost 90% of the owners.

Your in a tough spot right now, but look at all your options and keep the membership informed so they will support whatever decision you come up with.

Good Luck!
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Sheila,

Of course you are aware that increasing the assessments will not solve the problem of not having the $$$ now, when it's needed. However, a special assessment will only solve the immediate problem of paying for the repairs. The idea of a "strategic planning comm." is a very good one. The BOD needs to have a reserve study done and start contributing to a reserve fund. WIth reserves in place you will no longer have problems meeting the expense of major repairs. I would suggest trying to get approval for the special assessment to take care of the repairs that are needed now. And, I would also suggest an increase to the assessments in order to start contributing to a reserve fund. Reserves are a critical asset to the assn!
GeraldT4
Posts: 1,022
Posted:
SheilaH - I've heard of associations having a cap on special assessments where anything over that requires a vote. However, the logic of owner's voting upon it alludes me. Reason is an outcome of the majority voting down the assessment doesn't solve the problem of funds that are required to run the association. Your strategic planning is spot on. I am curious how much reimbursement from insurance for the loss (fire) offset any out of pocket association expense. As well, was there a deductible the individual owner had to pay for the tree root damage? Seems you relied on using the reserve account to fund the loss, but curious what else covered the loss.
GeorgerwilliamsW (Indiana)
Posts: 975
Posted:
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Posted By GeraldT4 on 09/05/2008 8:56 AM
SheilaH - I've heard of associations having a cap on special assessments where anything over that requires a vote. However, the logic of owner's voting upon it alludes me. Reason is an outcome of the majority voting down the assessment doesn't solve the problem of funds that are required to run the association. Your strategic planning is spot on. I am curious how much reimbursement from insurance for the loss (fire) offset any out of pocket association expense. As well, was there a deductible the individual owner had to pay for the tree root damage? Seems you relied on using the reserve account to fund the loss, but curious what else covered the loss.
Whether the logic eludes you or not does not change reality, sadly. For reference here is what my declaration states:
    "Section 4. Special Assessments. In addition to the annual assessments authorized above, the Association may levy, in any assessment year, a special assessment applicable to that year only for the purpose of defraying, in whole or in part, the coot of any construction, reconstruction, repair, replacement, or maintenance of the Common Area and Landscaping Easement provided that any such assessment shall have the assent of not less than two-thirds (2/3) of the total votes of the Members who are voting in person or by proxy at a meeting duly called for this purpose."

KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
I would call the meeting to figure out how to move through the mess. And also look for anything that you can cut back on this year's budget. It will also help if you have the plan of action on collections at the meeting.

The tough thing is that if people just don't have the money to pay the assessments (or simply refuse) you are just not going to get the money. Yes, you can foreclose, but that doesn't guarantee that the money will come either since they probably also have a mortgage that needs to be paid.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
3rd time this year for root problems with the plumbing system? Put that on the top of the list for "Things To Do", preventive-wise. An assessment of the waste pipes vs. mature tree roots needs to be done ASAP.
GeraldT4
Posts: 1,022
Posted:
Not looking to change reality of associations George. Logic still eludes me. What will the association do if 2/3rd's or more vote no to the assessment, let the elements rot, crumble?
MagdaS (Florida)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Can you tell me what type of HOA you are talking about? Is it multi family, condo, single family?

Our HOA consists of single family homes and anyt problems like that are the individual owners expense. We had a problem and had to fix it ourselves, as have other owners in the community.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,963
Posted:
Thanks to all for your comments! If you have more, please keep them coming.

MagdaS – we’re a community of townhomes, some ranch and the others two story, all set up in groups of four. The trees are considered part of the common area, so this falls on the association, since the problem originated outside the unit.

GeorgerwilliamsW – borrowing IS an option (I’d prefer that rather than a special assessment), but I’m concerned about the terms we’d get – or miss out on - given our finances. We hope to negotiate a payment plan with the repair company and go on from there. Borrowing the money will be an option we put to the homeowners.

MaryA1 – our last reserve study was in 2005 and before all of this happened, I thought we could do the next on in 2010, especially since we’ve done some long overdue projects since then. I agree we probably need to do it sooner, but right now, we don’t have the money.

SusanW1 – thanks for your suggestion on assessing the plumbing and mature trees (maybe that’s one thing a special assessment could also pay for). We have implored people to use Rid-X and products like that to help reduce the risk – I don’t know if they’ve done it, but now, maybe they’ll pay attention. Paying $$11-$12 for a box of the stuff to flush down the toilet every month is much better than facing repair bills of $7K or more.

GeraldT4 – we did get insurance money for the previous plumbing problems, but the number of incidents has me worried that our coverage would be put at risk (our insurance already went way up this spring) and so I don’t think we’re going to send this one in. We also have a $5K deductible, so there went $15K from the operating budget.

As for what happens if the members vote no? We’ll likely get the loan and raise the assessment – of course it will hurt everyone’s pocketbook, including mine, but unless someone comes up with a better idea, they’ll have no choice, but to live with it. A worse alternative would be filing for bankruptcy, but as bad as things are, I like to think we don’t have to take that step. Basically, this is the point of no return for the members – my first post on this board concerned homeowner apathy and now people will see what happens when they don’t pay attention. I’m up for re-election next year and am well aware that this could cost me my spot, but I don’t believe in biting my tongue when it comes to telling people the truth. It’s going to be interesting at any rate – I’ll keep everyone posted.


If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
SC5 (Arizona)
Posts: 2
Posted:
I live in Arizona in a condominium community of 180 units. Some are investment properties and are rented. Others are owner occupied. I am an owner/member of the association (COA). It came to my attention during the last board meeting that the community buildings will not be painted (stucco) until 2019-2020 because two years ago there were numerous roof repairs that ate up the reserves. I asked about whether a special assessment should be considered. I want to point out that the buildings have a lot of peeling paint, the parking lots need to be resurfaced, the granite rocks need to be supplemented and the landscaping needs to be updated. These are the issues that I am aware, there could be more.

When Discussing the special assessment the property manager agent reported that in the past when the Board had sent out letters requiring a 2/3 yes vote hardly anyone responded at all. He went on to say that it is impossible to make a special assessment if the owners do not reply. I have read the CC& Rs and it does say that a special meeting must be called and owners notified and a 2/3 yes vote is needed to make the assessment. There does not appear to be a remedy spelled out in the document if no one responds to the assessment letter and meeting.

So my questions to the forum are:

Is there a remedy for the board to use to effecuate assessing monies to make many needed repairs and too replenish the reserves?

Can I as a owner/member write letters to my owner neighbors that point out the need for our property to be better maintained. ANd by doing so insure property values as well as renter desirability are protected?

I have never been on a board but honor our board members commitment to the community and am willing to help them, however, it appears that the property management agent is running the show. So any suggestions from board members or property managers would be appreciated.

Thank you

GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
SC5, you should start another thread. The one you replied to is over 9 years old.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,046
Posted:
SC,

It's best to start new threads even if the topic is similar.
Otherwise, your issue may simply be lost in the responses as not everyone reads everything beyond the first posting.
PaininyourA
Posts: 215
Posted:
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Posted By GeraldT4 on 09/05/2008 1:05 PM
Not looking to change reality of associations George. Logic still eludes me. What will the association do if 2/3rd's or more vote no to the assessment, let the elements rot, crumble?

That is PRECISELY a/the reason for receivership.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,046
Posted:
John,

Old thread (9 years).

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