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LuciC
Posts: 32
Posted:
Situation: we have renters in the community who have violated most of the CC&R's and guidelines
- business in garage, 24/7
- parking overnight on private streets
- trash cans stored in yard
- and it goes on

Our problem:
- our HOA has no rules or guidelines for renters or homeowners who rent
- our management company will not send renters violation letters only HO's
- the above-mentioned property owner lives in Floria

We are looking for some established guidelines which we could incorporate into our guidelines. Any suggestions?

Thanks

DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Luci,
Your documents that have the restrictive covenants and your rules and regulations should not be and probably are not addressed to renters only. This is an owners responsibility to make sure that their tenants obey the rules and other restrictions.

Actually, the management company is doing the letters correctly. I am an advocate of sending the same letter to both tenants and owners. Maybe the renters are just plain oblivious to what the rules are. If not, then it is way beyond time for the owner to get involved.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Luci,

You don't need to adopt a rule to send a violation notice; I'm sure that's all outlined in your CCRs. The notice is sent to the property owner. It's up to him to inform his renter that he is violating a CCR restriction.

I would suggest the board adopt a renter's policy. The policy would outline what resp. the owner has to the assn when renting his property. Among other things, the policy should state the prop. owner:

1) must inform the board when the prop is being rented
2) must provide the board with property owner's current address
3) must provide the renter with a copy of the CCRs and the rules
4) remind the property owner that he is resp. for any violations committed by the renter including any fines levied if the violations are not cured
5) cannot rent his property for less than six-months, one-year (whatever board deems best)

In AZ a property owner who rents his property must inform the Co assessor. Rental properties are assessed at a much higher rate than owner-occupied properties. In Glendale a property owner who rents his property is required to obtain a business license also. Other cities in the state may have similar requirements.
LuciC
Posts: 32
Posted:
Unfortunately, the homeowner lives in Florida and is apparently ignoring the violation letters.

It is not clear if we can take the HO to court in Arizona.

However, thanks for the suggestions. I will pass them to the Board.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LuciC on 08/28/2008 10:49 AM
Unfortunately, the homeowner lives in Florida and is apparently ignoring the violation letters.

It is not clear if we can take the HO to court in Arizona.

However, thanks for the suggestions. I will pass them to the Board.

The fact that he lives out of state does not remove him from any liability to abide by the CCRs. He may not be ignoring the violation letters, instead his tenant may be ignoring him! If he is disregarding fines being imposed, the assn can place a lien. If he isn't being fined, I would ask "Why not?". Whatever the situation, the board needs to have a talk with their attorney!
LuciC
Posts: 32
Posted:
Hi Mary,

According to Arizona law, liens cannot be placed on homes for fines, only assessment fees.

Since our MC will not discuss the situation, we do not know:

- if the HO has received any violations letters, and if so, how many
- if the HO has replied

and the renters are aware of the CC&R's and guidelines as several of us have spoken to them. We were given a rude gesture. Now, they purposely do everything they can cause violations.

Luci
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LuciC on 08/28/2008 11:55 AM
Hi Mary,

According to Arizona law, liens cannot be placed on homes for fines, only assessment fees.

Since our MC will not discuss the situation, we do not know:

- if the HO has received any violations letters, and if so, how many
- if the HO has replied

and the renters are aware of the CC&R's and guidelines as several of us have spoken to them. We were given a rude gesture. Now, they purposely do everything they can cause violations.

Luci

Luci,

I believe you're a bit confused. FORECLOSURE cannot be used to collect unpaid fines, only delinquent assessments. The assn can place a lien for unpaid fines; then obtain a judgment but can only collect when the property is sold.
DwightT (Idaho)
Posts: 664
Posted:
FWIW: We have one like that. A renter parks his bobcat and trailer in the driveway almost every weekend. The renter has been informed that that isn't allowed, and he even wrote a letter to the Board requesting that we waive the attorney fees that were charged to the homeowner for the violation. But he continues to park the trailer in the driveway. Since we don't have any provisions for assessing fines, we have gone to court and gotten a judgment against the homeowner. The owner doesn't live in the area, so she didn't show up for the hearing. Doesn't matter. The judge gave her 30 days to correct the problem or she will be held in contempt. The 30 days have now passed, so if it shows up again this weekend (or any other time), it could be interesting.

BTW: This has been going on for almost a year now. Sometimes these things just take time.
GeorgerwilliamsW (Indiana)
Posts: 975
Posted:
You are absolutely right. Enforcing covenants can be a lengthy, time consuming, expensive process when you have to go to court.

Now, if the bobcat and trailer show up, you will have to go back to court for a contempt citation and a bench warrant. If the owner lives out of state, the arrest warrant will likely not be exercised unless she returns to Idaho, or if she gets stopped for a traffic violation and the officer runs a check on her.

Would not it be sensible to include the renter as a defendant in the court case? Most covenants that I am familiar with have a section that requires renters to abide by the rules and covenants as well. Indeed, the covenants are often incorporated into the lease.

Small things escalate into big things when the only recourse you have is adjudication in the court system.
LuciC
Posts: 32
Posted:
Mary,

New Arizona Community Association Legislation Goes Into Effect:

"Associations no longer have the right to record a notice of lien for unpaid fines and penalties, interest, late charges on fines and other fees and charges. Associations can now enforce payment of these fines by":

1. filing a lawsuit against the owner (very costly, and we would have to wait until he sells his house)
2. obtaining a judgment against the owner (same as above)

Thanks again for your replies.

Luci
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LuciC on 08/28/2008 12:52 PM
Mary,

New Arizona Community Association Legislation Goes Into Effect:

"Associations no longer have the right to record a notice of lien for unpaid fines and penalties, interest, late charges on fines and other fees and charges. Associations can now enforce payment of these fines by":

1. filing a lawsuit against the owner (very costly, and we would have to wait until he sells his house)
2. obtaining a judgment against the owner (same as above)

Thanks again for your replies.

Luci

Luci,

Here's a direct quote from the current law:

"The associations lien for monies other than for assessments, for charges for late payment of those assessments, for reasonable collection fees and for reasonable attorney fees and costs incurred with respect to those assessments may not be foreclosed and is effective only on conveyance of any itnerest in the real property." Note the beginning of this statement: "lien for monies other than assessments", which includes fines for CCR violations. I know of no bill that passed this session to change this statute. Where did you get the info on this "New Arizona Community Association Legislation"? Can you give me the bill number and the applicable statute?

TonyM3 (Arizona)
Posts: 170
Posted:
Only three bills were passed this past AZ legislative session that ended June 28.
Bills that go into effect Sept. 26, 2008 are:

HB2523- Relating to delinquent property tax liens.
HB2440- Political Petitions

HB2726- Applicability of the Condominium Act; goes into effect Dec. 31, 2008.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Thx, Tony. And HB2523 isn't even an HOA specific bill. It was not a very good year for HOA reform! IMO, HB2440 (political petitions) was utterly meaningless -- a wasted effort. Other than a gated community, how can most HOAs really prohibit anyone from taking around a petition? And HB2726 only applies to condos built b/4 1986. I'm on a number of HOA forums and I don't recall anyone ever complaining that the current HOA statutes did not apply to their condo because it was built prior to 1986. Having said that, I see nothing wrong with this law; just that it wasn't a very pressing issue.
RobertM11 (Arizona)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Luis, your HOA can adopt rules for rentals - here is the solution that our board came up with for problem rentals although this concerns mostly criminal behavior. You can see the posts under Community Pages. http://www.neighborhoodlink.com/public/main.html?nneighid=446649187&nsupercity=212766004

I agree with the other posters that you can file a lien but cannot foreclose for anything but overdue dues. But you can get a judgement and you do not have to wait to collect on that. We have successfully used wage garnishments to collect on judgements for fines, late fees and overdue assessments.

Since the property and the violations are taking place in AZ, you may certainly sue the owner in AZ. If and when you get a judgement my advice would be to go after the rent payments to collect on the judgement.

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