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TraceyF1 (Georgia)
Posts: 2
Posted:
I am on a committee working to move our HOA (in Marietta, GA) from voluntary to mandatory. We have approximately 170 homes of which approx. 100 always pay dues. The remainder pay nothing with the exception of about 22 homes that pay (voluntarily) a grandfathered amount much less than the full amount paid by most. Those members do not have access to the amenities but CAN attend meetings and vote. Our subdivision is a Swim & Tennis community and those amenities are approximately 30 years old. They have been "band-aided" along for a while but the time has come where replacement is necessary and we simply do not have the money to fund the projects. We have researched many options but the best option seems to be a mandatory/permanent HOA so we can secure loans to make the improvements and repairs needed.

I am seeking ANY and ALL information you can offer on how to proceed with this conversion.

An additional hurdle we have ... our current By-Laws restrict us from using HOA funds to hire an attorney so I need help/suggestions regarding funding.

Thank you for your assistance!
KevinK7 (Florida)
Posts: 1,343
Posted:
I would suggest becoming very familiar with the laws governing HOAs in your state and try to contact surrounding neighborhoods that had gone through the same conversion. They may be able to lend the appropriate documentation to help you on your way.

How do the homeowners feel about becoming a mandatory association?
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
You said: "Our subdivision is a Swim & Tennis community and those amenities are approximately 30 years old."

What is your current structure? WHO owns the land these amenities sit on?
How have you been paying for all the amenities all this time? Liability insurance? Are you a corporation now?

The corporation is established first, but you must show that ownership to do that. The IRS will grant you not for profit status, if you show a mission that fits the HOA criteria.
MaryN (Virginia)
Posts: 125
Posted:
Please get good legal advise. Our community tried to convert from voluntary to mandatory by taking a majority vote(required in our CCR's to change the covenants). Originally all lots were required to "pay and equal amount" for road maintenance. The new covenants not only made some of the lots mandatory, but excluded some from paying per lot. Another important legal factor..a declaration was never filed in the county land use office. VA Supreme Court has ruled that without a declaration on file a subdivision is a voluntary one. A new declaration can not be filed now. Google "Dogwood Valley Home Owners Association" for the details. Also, in NC, the NC Supreme Court ruled that the majority of property owners can't vote to make the minority owners join a mandatory association. I think it's the Ledger's case. I know about these cases because we are now involved in a lawsuit about this very issue. I don't know anything about Georgia HOA law. Had our Board consulted with an attorney who understood HOA law... all of this time, expense and aggravation could have been avoided.
MaryN
TraceyF1 (Georgia)
Posts: 2
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Posted By SusanW1 on 08/25/2008 4:57 AM
You said: "Our subdivision is a Swim & Tennis community and those amenities are approximately 30 years old."

What is your current structure? WHO owns the land these amenities sit on?
How have you been paying for all the amenities all this time? Liability insurance? Are you a corporation now?

The corporation is established first, but you must show that ownership to do that. The IRS will grant you not for profit status, if you show a mission that fits the HOA criteria.

We are voluntary but approx 100 homes pay dues of $350/month. That has been enough for us to "break even" and we've been able to carry over the same $9K every year. That $9K is dwindling at this point due to the heavy repairs needed.

I'm not sure who owns the land ... can a voluntary HOA own land? I'll have to find out. I know we DO have liability insurance because we increased it (by a vote) a couple of years ago. We DO have By-Laws and we have a Board.

Our goal is not convenants ... it's a goal of being financially secure.

We don't want to be looking for money to fill our pool in with dirt.

Other HOA's have gone to "permanent" memberships which is a form of manadatory. It is correct we cannot force anybody to join but what other neighborhoods have done is if you do NOT join there will be a hefty initiation fee and/or back dues due when you DO want to join OR if you sell your home. All NEW homeowners will be mandatory/permanent.
GeorgerwilliamsW (Indiana)
Posts: 975
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Posted on 08/25/2008 4:57 AM
The corporation is established first, but you must show that ownership to do that. The IRS will grant you not for profit status, if you show a mission that fits the HOA criteria.
Here we go again, folks. It really irks me at times to see how much incorrect and misleading information is promulgated on this board.

In most, but not all, states homeowners associations are incorporated under the state not for profit statues. These statutes are designed for non-stock, membership corporations.

The IRS has nothing to do with it. The IRS does not grant not for profit status to homeowners associations. Exempt income does not make a corporation not for profit.

Homeowners associations annually elect to have certain income exempt form federal income taxes by filing an 1120-H. The election is made on an annual basis. That is all they have to do. They do not have to apply to the IRS for exemption like charitable organizations must do.

The homeowners association annually claims to exempt certain income from taxation. The IRS does not grant not for profit status to homeowners associations. The IRS does not consider homeowners associations not for profit corporations. Exempt income does not make a corporation not for profit.

This is an important distinction that board members need to understand. Most charitable organizations must receive a determination letter from the IRS to claim a 501(c)(3)exemption from income taxes, so that gifts to them are deductible by the donor under section 170(b)(1)(a).

For federal income tax purposes homeowners associations come under section 528 of the Internal Revenue Code, enacted in the Tax Reform Act of 1976.

To qualify for the election under section 528 to have certain income (but not all income) exempt from federal income taxes a corporation must meet five specific tests only one of which relates to the mission of the corporation, (which I will not go into here) and file an 1120-H.

Homeowners associations do not need to receive any sort of exemption determination from the IRS. The IRS does not grant not for profit status to homeowners associations.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
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Tracy, I suggest you read the thread I started on "coverting from voluntary to manditory". You will have a very difficult time getting the number of units required to approve this amendment to your Declaration. Start with grandfathering those homes which do not want to pay an assessment against their property. Word the amendment so that their property will require manditory assessments when they sell (with title transfer).
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
Tracy,

You should also be very aware that your efforts will make some people very angry for very good reasons. You are attempting to force people to take an obligation they clearly don't want now. And while I know I have little of the story, it doesn't look good to me so far. So far it would appear that your facilities need more then $420,000 a year and that doesn't include the reserve funding that has been neglected.

My my calculation this means that each house will have to pay just under $2500 a year to keep status quo. There is a good chance that at least one of the 170 houses will find that they just can't afford this amount. At any rate, if someone can figure this stuff out they will realize that a lawsuit may be much cheaper option then joining the association.

As for having no desire to institute covenants, that is fine for now. But you can't promise that covenants and rules are not going to be on the agenda down the road a bit.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
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Posted By GeorgerwilliamsW on 08/25/2008 6:31 AM
Posted on 08/25/2008 4:57 AM
The corporation is established first, but you must show that ownership to do that. The IRS will grant you not for profit status, if you show a mission that fits the HOA criteria.
Here we go again, folks. It really irks me at times to see how much incorrect and misleading information is promulgated on this board.

In most, but not all, states homeowners associations are incorporated under the state not for profit statues. These statutes are designed for non-stock, membership corporations.

The IRS has nothing to do with it. The IRS does not grant not for profit status to homeowners associations. Exempt income does not make a corporation not for profit.

Homeowners associations annually elect to have certain income exempt form federal income taxes by filing an 1120-H. The election is made on an annual basis. That is all they have to do. They do not have to apply to the IRS for exemption like charitable organizations must do.

The homeowners association annually claims to exempt certain income from taxation. The IRS does not grant not for profit status to homeowners associations. The IRS does not consider homeowners associations not for profit corporations. Exempt income does not make a corporation not for profit.

This is an important distinction that board members need to understand. Most charitable organizations must receive a determination letter from the IRS to claim a 501(c)(3)exemption from income taxes, so that gifts to them are deductible by the donor under section 170(b)(1)(a).

For federal income tax purposes homeowners associations come under section 528 of the Internal Revenue Code, enacted in the Tax Reform Act of 1976.

To qualify for the election under section 528 to have certain income (but not all income) exempt from federal income taxes a corporation must meet five specific tests only one of which relates to the mission of the corporation, (which I will not go into here) and file an 1120-H.

Homeowners associations do not need to receive any sort of exemption determination from the IRS. The IRS does not grant not for profit status to homeowners associations.

George,

I'm afraid your info will fall on deaf ears as I have posted the same info on this forum numerous times. Susan, in particular, either doesn't believe what I've posted or for whatever other reason continues to post this misleading information. Perhaps she'll believe you!!

SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
George : We are not ALL condominium management associatons, residential real estate associations, or time share associations that fall under your described criteria.

My error was in not asking what kind of association the orginal poster's association is.

Our subdivision has a 501(c)(4)Determination Letter from the IRS.
We file a Form 990 with the IRS.

I am well aware of the difference in the charitable non-profits and the not for profits status of associations.
CarolH2 (Georgia)
Posts: 33
Posted:
Tracey,

My mother used to live in a neighborhood that had voluntary dues but changed to mandatory. I am going to attach a link to the neighborhood website, maybe you can contact the president and see how it was done.

http://www.eaglewatchweb.org/

Carol Ann
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
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Posted By SusanW1 on 08/25/2008 5:09 PM
George : We are not ALL condominium management associatons, residential real estate associations, or time share associations that fall under your described criteria.

My error was in not asking what kind of association the orginal poster's association is.

Our subdivision has a 501(c)(4)Determination Letter from the IRS.
We file a Form 990 with the IRS.

I am well aware of the difference in the charitable non-profits and the not for profits status of associations.

Susan,

I appreciate you taking the time to clear this up. I know I have posted the same info each time you have made what I call misleading statements about the IRS and HOAs. in the future, when you post this info I suggest you clarify the fact that your HOA is a tax-exempt org. Most, if not the majority of HOAs are NOT and this is where the misleading info comes into play.

Thx again!
GeorgerwilliamsW (Indiana)
Posts: 975
Posted:
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Posted By SusanW1 on 08/25/2008 5:09 PM
George : We are not ALL condominium management associatons, residential real estate associations, or time share associations that fall under your described criteria.

My error was in not asking what kind of association the orginal poster's association is.

Our subdivision has a 501(c)(4)Determination Letter from the IRS.
We file a Form 990 with the IRS.

I am well aware of the difference in the charitable non-profits and the not for profits status of associations.
Your observation about 501(c)(4) status is an accurate one. Thanks for pointing that out.

Most homeowners associations formed prior to the Tax Reform Act of 1976 (and, perhaps, some thereafter) are 501(c)(4) social welfare (community benefit) organizations. Indeed, many homeowners associations formed prior to that time were not even incorporated, but organized as unincorporated associations.

However, the vast majority of homeowners associations today would not qualify for a 501(c)(4) exemption. (See my paragraphs below.)

In 1976 Congress added section 528 specifically for homeowners associations in response to conflicting Revenue Rulings 72-102, 74-17 and 74-99 which held that condo associations are not tax exempt under section 501(c)(4) and Revenue Ruling 74-199 which made it extremely difficult for homeowners associations to meet the community benefit test of section 501(c)(4) and avoid the private benefit disqualification.

(In 74-99 the IRS said that homeowners associations are prima facie presumed to be essentially and primarily formed and operated for the benefit, "private inurement," of the individual members and hence not exempt.)

So, in order to qualify for a 501(c)(4) exemption today, a homeowners association must (1) serve the broader community, (2) not conduct (or at least minimize) exterior maintenance of a private residential building (e.g. a condominium building), and (3) must, at best, minimize the ownership and maintenance of common areas not for the use and enjoyment of the general public. (As an aside, gifts to 501(c)(4) organizations are not deductible from individual income taxes.)

The IRS defines a community as one that "has traditionally been construed as having reference to a geographical unit bearing a reasonably recognizable relationship to an area ordinarily identified as a governmental subdivision or a unit or district thereof." Further, "a community is not simply an aggregation of homeowners bound together in a structured unit formed as an integral part of a plan for the development of a real estate subdivision and the sale and purchase of homes therein."

So what Congress did in 1976 is add section 528 which provides for elective exemption of membership dues (fees, assessments) from income taxes, similar to the tax treatment of exempt social clubs (section 512(a)(3)) and political organizations (section 517). Only "exempt function income," however, escapes taxation.

Although I have not researched homeowners association status nationwide in this regard, I suspect very few are (remain) 501(c)(4) organizations, since most do not dedicate common areas to public use, but, rather restrict them to members of the association. The only benefit I can see to a newly established homeowners association to seek 501(c)(4) status, is if the common areas are owned for public benefit, such as an urban park open to all. It may be that the mega-homeowners association with thousands of units may be one type that successfully maintains a 501(c)(4) exemption. I would have to research that further.

Nevertheless, were I a 501(c)(4) homeowners association, I would be very careful not to raise any notice with the IRS.

It has been a long time since I dredged up my involvement in the tax law changes brought about through the major reforms in 1976. To many people this is ancient history, but for those of us who went through it, it was a challenging, uncertain time. Since 528 was enacted, things have been much quieter on the IRS front in regard to homeowners associations.

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