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JoanneL1 (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Over 10 years ago when the developer was in control, two houses were built next to each other. The plat map then and now, reflects a lot exists between these two houses. Accordingly, each homeowner paid one and one-half assessments and also received one and one-half voting entitlements.

In June, Homeowner A asked the Board to review his lot situation because he felt he was on an oversized lot and should only pay one full assessment. The Board looked into his request and apparently the builder did in fact reconfigure the lots with the County to build a house which required encroachment on the half lot. So the house does sit on an oversized lot. The Board voted to reflect this change in assessment and also voting entitlement commencing Jan. 2009. Since the Board wanted to be consistent in its actions, we looked at all lots and applied the above decision to Homeowner B. Homeowner B received the benefit of Homeowner A's request. Homeowner B, not Homeowner A, is requesting reimbursement for over 10 years of the half lot assessments. He is also mentioning legal action if he doesn't get what he wants.

The Board is not willing to comply with his request. Our position is that due diligence on the homeowners part to review his property records when he first purchased his home could have resulted in a change at the very beginning if he requested it. Also, how would we account for the past votes? If we pay both homeowners back, this will also impact our budget and cause an increase in assessments for all residents.

Sure would appreciate suggestions, preferably someone with legal background. Thanks.

BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
Not a lawyer, but i think your path right now is sound. You adjusted the "mistake" as soon as you found out about it, you adjusted it fairly and for both parties, even though only one "asked" for the adjustment.

I would stay kind, polite, and let the second owner threat and bluff. If he hires a lawyer, he might have a case... as a judge, i would like your arguement, but you can't tell. However, let the HO spend his own money and play the game with lawyers a bit, simply stay polite, and prepare your answers exactly like you explained them here.
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
Joanne:

I differ from Brian's opinion, if the lots were reconfigured to show two oversized lots then I think homeowner A and B have a case against you. The Board has in fact for 10 years been overcharging them, and I will bet your documents say something to the fact that all properties are to be assessed equally.

The right thing to do is refund the money to both...if you want to get into a legal battle then I guess you can, I don't know how statute of limitations works but that may save you some money. But you have already acknowledged a mistake by adjusting your assessments and the defense of "we were robbing you, but is was ok because you didn't know better and check and we didn't know better and check" probably won't hold water.
GeraldT4
Posts: 1,022
Posted:
As an alternative, why not try to settle the matter amicably and ask for half of the reimbursement?
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Joanne,

IMO, this definitely is a situation that calls for expert legal advise. As you know, responses here do not qualify as legal advice. Since ten years worth of assesments is at stake (well, actually five) this h/o may very well pursue the matter through legal chanels. But, either way, the BOD needs to know exactly what their resp. is.

BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
While i agree with brad that the owners likely have a case, and that the morally right thing to do would be a refund (which you indicated would be a hardship for the HOA), Brad's comment below made me chuckle:

Quote:
Posted By BradP on 08/19/2008 8:13 AM
Joanne:
the defense of "we were robbing you, but is was ok because you didn't know better and check and we didn't know better and check" probably won't hold water.

It works for the IRS, insurance companies and the government, why not let it work for others?
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:

As a general rule: never refund cash; rather, give a credit on upcoming dues or assessments (if the settlement requires you to).
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
The fact is that the developer should have taken care of the whole issue back when he/she was in control.

It is also a fact that both lots enjoyed the advantage of the extra voting power having paid the extra fee.

There is a statute of limitations that surely doesn't extend ten years.

I don't know that I would get too concerned about legal action being taken. If the owner does pursue this then it will likely start with a demand letter from his attorney. Should re receive the demand letter then a consultation is definitely in order with your attorney.

If you do something for one owner, you should (morally) do the same for the other. I would consider some compromise in the form of future credits. Hopefully you can work something out and avoid the lawyers becoming involved.

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