Thank You!

I wanted to just say thank you to all on HOATALK. I know that it's hard to paint a picture of factual events on the computer and it's hard due to demographics and laws.... but for the record you guys give great advice.. and are very supportive to those who need it.

I know that I speak for many of my fellow regular posters, that we learn every day and from every post that comes from so many of the new folks who come to this site for information. We try very hard to be open minded and give advice from our best experiences and knowledge. And we do disagree but that is what it is all about. Get as many points of view as possible, sort it out and hope for the best. Thanks to you Nicole and Sally.

Nicole,
Just as in life, there are people that see their glass as half empty and others see it as half full. I stress many times that this is not a blog or message board where people come to get their ugliness out on someone else. There will be a few who feel that your problems can be easily solved by throwing a barb or two at you. The HOA TALK monitor is pretty good at watching that kind of behavior and some of us regulars also watch and try to make everyone be nice nice. But people are people and you just have to not respond to those who can't play it on an upbeat response.

Well said Michelle!

Totally agree . . . however, it's an opinion based on a great deal of experience "reading" people and wasn't developed in a vacuum. But yes, it's still an opinion. However, I still stand behind that opinion.


I think it's very possible that the 3 of you are, as they say in the business, "smoking your own exhaust," and may well be distracting yourselves from potential bigger picture issues. Notice all my disclaimers, since, I can only take your interpretation on the "feelings" of the other 2 that there is favoritism because neither of the others have come to this site and presented their interpretation of the problems in your'all's HOA.

So your question of me, regarding what I think about others from whom I've heard nothing, is sort of moot.


I have to confess that I have only a vague memory of IreneC, but I can assure you, I have definitely called out my share bogus posters on this board in the past, and I make no apologies for it. She may well have been one of them. Believe it or not, there are quite a few of people who come here with less than ethical intentions. I have no hesitation calling out people who are wasting everyone's time simply trying to obtain some roadmap or whathaveyou to "nail" a board for having either sent them notices of violation or denied them some approval of some kind.

Again, I have a strong sense that you do have some valid and sincere issues. But my comments to you were intended to be constructive in a way that would help you clear away some of the things that may make your attempts to find or execute a solution to those issues more difficult.

I wish you all the best. Keep your eye on the prize.

DJ, in the broader scope, I pretty much agree with you.

I personally don't care what hobbled-together, random "support" they can bring back to their board and try to use!

It does paint a pretty funny picture!

If this were just a generic forum, where the general public could mosey on by and set up whatever entertainment they get off on, then, sure, what of it?

But this site does have a purpose, that being, "A positive place for community association leaders to share ideas and learn."

Those of us who have problems and issues have an expectation of receiving reasoned, thoughtful, perhaps even helpful advice and commentary.

Those of us who post to assist others with problems do try to give some thought and effort into our replies. Every time we have to think about a new problem, or even an old problem that we have to look at from a different angle, we all have the potential to learn something.

When we have posters who are just, to put it bluntly, "yanking chains," it does waste our time. I don't have a problem telling ones like that to hit the road.

This isn't the place to collect stray bits of flotsum and jetsum to use against people, and it also isn't the place to engage in a heated debate about whether or not HOAs are an arm of the devil and need to be whacked off.

This isn't a place where we should feel as if we have to either indict boards or homeowners about whom we hear only one side of the story or a place where we feel we have to defend the very idea of HOAs to someone who thinks we should all, basically, burn in - - - you get the idea.