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GlennM1 (Washington)
Posts: 16
Posted:
I live in a HOA community that has 148 homes. We are all separated geographicaly, by "divisions". I started a Neighborhood Block Watch Program last year in my division and have 100% participation. There are 15 units in my division. I purchased signs and materials and was promptly reimbursed by the BOD/Mgmt. Company. I was invited to a board meeting to brief the board members on the program. I agreed to support the other divisions with implementing Block Watch Programs in their respective divisions, and informed the BOD that I was not willing or able to purchase additional signs and materials for the other divisions. We estimated a cost of around $500 for the materials. I need volunteers from every division to step up to the plate in order to implement Block Watch Programs in their own neighborhoods. How do I get at least 1 Block Watch volunteer from every division? I can't seem to get any BOD active support concerning implementation in our other divisions. What is my next action item on this issue?

Glenn Mounts
GeraldT1 (<Not Specified>)
Posts: 519
Posted:
GlennM1 - Great success story!! Hold a meeting and distribute an informative flyer to the other divisions inviting them to attend so they can learn of the success of your Block Watch Program. GeraldT1
SwanB (Washington)
Posts: 199
Posted:
We had a neighborhood Block Watch program in our HOA too. The sheriff involved with the Community Block Watch program came out and delivered the first packet of information and gave a very informative workshop to our members about three years ago. Unfortunately, the member who attempted to organize the Block Watch program and run it was not competent with organizational skills and ended up being one of three Block Watch participants. She had ten Block Watch captains listed but calls to six of them revealed they were not aware of their appointment to the position or what their duties were as Block Watch captains within our association.
Their Block Watch reports consisted mainly of property violations and rental violations within our association which isn't the purpose of a Block Watch program...very 'Big Brother' mentality.
As a Board member I was pushed to pulling this individual out of her position as our Block Watch coordinator. Inevitably this course of action was viewed as being anti-Block Watch.
It is fairly easy to get Block Watch materials from your local Sheriff or Police Department coordinator. Our first batch was free and we then had to purchase anything afterwards. However we didn't put signs up in our association because we have a covenant concerning signs.

WilliamT (Arizona)
Posts: 489
Posted:
Posted By SwanB on 06/30/2006 5:31 AM

However we didn't put signs up in our association because we have a covenant concerning signs.



I would think the signs are an important part of the block watch program.

In our area they are attached to street sign posts. It would seem that your covenants should allow this, or at least the board could allow a variance for these signs which are security related for the benefit of the neighborhood.

Bill

SwanB (Washington)
Posts: 199
Posted:
We are a gated community and our roads are private. I would think Block Watch signs are more relevant to a community that is open to the public.
The members of our community are aware of the existence of the Block Watch program as they receive the information in their New Member Packet. Now whether they read it or not is their business.
However most of our members do contact us about it.
WilliamT (Arizona)
Posts: 489
Posted:
We are in a gated community and are just now beginning to think about getting a block watch program. Other sub communities within our master community are also gated and they have the street signs. The Police department recommends the signs in every block watch neighborhood, gated or not.

I also believe block watch signs are equally relevent in gated communities, because the gates don't stop people from coming in. Non-residents only have to follow another car as they enter the gate. Many vendors have the gate code, and they can come in at will.

It's the people who don't live in the community that you want to let know that the block watch program exists. That's where I feel the signs are helpful.

Ocassionally we will see a bicyclist who does not live in the neighborhood cruising our streets, or someone walking, who does not live here. About once in every three months a solicitor will not heed our no-soliciting sign at the gated entrance, and go door to door.

We are a sub community in a large master community, and this week there was a child molestation in our club house area. This happened at around 11:00AM on the grounds of the club house. This is an area where everyone would feel safe and never dream that this would happen to a child at this private location in broad daylight.

It should be a wake up call to everyone that no place is safe, and parents should always keep an eye on their small children when they are in a public place, in a private club house grounds such as ours, or playing in their own yard.

There were many people on the club house grounds at the time, but most were near the swimming pool area where a swim team was practicing. The girl had walked up the path on the small mountain on the grounds that is surrounded by waterfalls, and a gazebo at the top, where Santa Clause appears during Christmas.

After the molestaltion the girl either escaped or was released and ran to report the incident. The Police arrived very quickly. They have a composite sketch, but the suspect is still at large.

The area all around the club house is fenced and people entering are supposed to show ID to the desk clerk.

The following evening the Police Dept held a public meeting to discuss what they are doing to find the perpretrator, and to ask for the public assistance.

They told us that when we have solicitors who don't live in the neighborhood that we should call the police and they will be there in 5 minutes. We plan on doing that the next time, by politely telling the solicitor that we are not interested, then close the door and call the police.

We'll watch from a front window to keep the police informed as to where the solicitor is. If a block watch program is installed by that time we will be able to contact the neighbors and possibly set up a delaying tactic until the Police arrive. By soliciting door to door in a private gated area with no-soliciting signs posted at the gate, they are trespassing so the Police can arrest them.

Bill
SwanB (Washington)
Posts: 199
Posted:
What a horrible thing to happen. As soon as I typed 'we are a gated community with private roads' I knew I was going to hit a controversial button and don't want our choice to not use Block Watch signs to become the topic.
Each association does what fits right for them. This is our choice for our own reasons and really isn't a debatable point.
I do agree that a simple gate does not keep the bad ones out.
We utilized the program when we had a string of break-ins that were obviously a result of bored teens. At that point and as Violations Director I divided our association into 'blocks' and found full-timers who were willing participants to be the Block captains. Their understood duties were to contact their phone tree when incidents occured within their designated 'block'. The contacts were either by phone, snail mail or email (if our office had an email authorization on file).
This was a simple system to coordinate as Violations Director because all I needed to do was call five Block Captains or email them with news and they would initiate their phone trees.
Right now we are simply waiting for the right volunteer to fill the Block Watch coordinator position and get if off my overburdened shoulders.
WilliamT (Arizona)
Posts: 489
Posted:
Posted By SwanB on 06/30/2006 6:43 AM

As soon as I typed 'we are a gated community with private roads' I knew I was going to hit a controversial button and don't want our choice to not use Block Watch signs to become the topic.
Each association does what fits right for them. This is our choice for our own reasons and really isn't a debatable point.


SwanB,

Neighborhood Block Watch Participation is the subject of this thread. My post was not debating anything with anyone. I simply stated my opinion on the subject along with the factors behind my reasoning.

Perhaps there are others that are contemplating block watch programs and by hearing various opinions they will be able to settle on a method that suits their community, just as you have. Hearing various opinions on subjects is one of the values of this forum.

Bill
BeatrizB (California)
Posts: 4
Posted:
www.usaonwatch.org is the best site I can recommend for info. I too live in a HOA community with a sub and master HOA. I have found out the following things:

1) Signage and NW materials can either be provided my donations from homeowners if you do not want HOA control or paid by the HOA if you want the NW to be a committee under the HOA's authority.

2) NW programs do not have to be associated with the HOA, but some NW programs find more homeowners are willing to participate if the HOA has some involvement.
PaulM18 (Virginia)
Posts: 46
Posted:
You realize you responding to a SIX year old post?!?
GlennM1 (Washington)
Posts: 16
Posted:
Better late than never!!!! :o)

Glenn Mounts
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Old or not post. The day my neighborhood needs a crime watch is the day my house goes on the market....and I am outta there.

BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JohnC46 on 03/15/2012 2:33 PM
Old or not post. The day my neighborhood needs a crime watch is the day my house goes on the market....and I am outta there.


John

your home is exactly the type of home a thief would love, with no one watching out for it. My personal opinion but there are a multitude of reasons for low and high crime rates and one of them for low rates are "nosy" neighbors and that is a fact. Crimes are often opportunities, a car left unlocked, a garage door open, front door unlocked. Reporting suspicious people and vehicles is a key crime fighting tool. Trust me, your home and your neighborhood has been cased one more than one occassion but criminals.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Anymore if we see a strange vehicle and individual(s) parked in the neighborhood I or someone else will ask questions. Reason being is a neighboring subdivision had an Owner advertising to rent their home. A few weeks later there was a small U-Haul backed up to the garage and the neighbors thought β€œhow nice they finally rented the home”. Instead it was a couple of criminals who had cased the home, determined it was empty, broke in and then proceeded to steal all the appliances in broad daylight.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
True 9/11 story pre neighborhood watch...The day of 9/11 we had some residents who were from the Middle East VERY suspicious acting that day. They were college students and multiple roommates. They kept to themselves and just kept strange hours. Nothing alarming at the time and good tenants. No complaints. They lived behind me a couple houses down.

I noticed a few days before they started to move out. However, on 9/11 they REALLY ramped up that moving process. They got a moving truck and put a vehicle in it without the license plate. The speed of which they were packing sped up. I noticed their license plates had Florida Tags on them. Later to find out the SAME county the terrorist were from there. We also are located not far from an airport. Basically ALL the signs of a "Sleeper Cell" you could imagine...

The FBI was called in and a SWAT Team dispersed. (I missed all of this but was informed later). They were searched and cleared. I never got the full story. However, I did get stuck with cleaning up some of their moving mess. Was able to find out that they were from Yemen and were supposedly moving to a school out west. No ties to terrorism found as far as I know.

I created an official neighborhood watch within a year. I told people no one has to patrol or anything. JUST REPORT! They could report it to me and I could contact the police if they felt uncomfortable. It helped our HOA even though NOT funded by the HOA. People got to know people as neighbors not just members. We worked together more on that end to help reduce crime or bad behavior.

We had a good safe neighborhood for the most part. Most breakins were found to be by kids of owners in our HOA not outsiders. We were able to identify any trouble kids and talk to their parents. The funny but sad truth is that even though our area is low crime we still had the SWAT team make a few visits and even the bomb squad. The bomb Squad because a deceased resident owned an unexploded grenade found when cleaning out his house... No one needed to move out because of it...Just one of those crazy things...

Former HOA President
SimoneT (Florida)
Posts: 116
Posted:
Old or new, this is still good information. We need a Neighborhood Watch. Our Citizens Observer Patrol is not sufficient. There is not enough volunteers, the ones there are senior, and retired, but do not have alot of time on their hands.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Simone:

Your neighborhood needs to be careful after the recent incident in Florida with the teen shooting. The family is now considering or potentially has maybe filed suit against the HOA because the neighborhood watch was sponsored by the association. If your neighbors want to have such an entity my potential view at this time is do not involve the HOA, but instead just have any neighbors interested put together a neighborhood watch outside of the HOA. Again, I would not recommend having HOA involved to avoid potential future legal problems, because recent litigation on some issues are potentially leaning towards the issue that if HOA takes on certain responsibilities they are unfortunately becoming legal targets.

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