Get 2 months of free community web site hosting from Community123.com!
Monday, August 26, 2019
Get 2 months of free community web site hosting from Community123.com!
Only members have access to all features.
Click here to join HOATalk for Free! Members click here to login and access all features.
Subject: Members attending Board Meetings
Prev Next
Please login to post a reply (click Member Login on the menu).
Author Messages
DR
(Florida)

Posts:4


06/28/2006 6:19 AM  

Roberts Rule states: Non-Members are prohibited from attending, speaking, or addressing Board of Director Meetings unless approved by 2/3 vote of Board of Directors. Is this true in all states? Florida for example?
GeraldT1


Posts:0


06/28/2006 6:58 AM  
DR - Robert's Rules are an informative tool that can guide all those that attend and lead meetings. They present a code of conduct that I believe can curtail loudmouths.

However, what do your governing documents state regarding the rights of members, and those permitted to attend meetings?

Robert's Rules have no jurisdiction over associations unless the association adopts them in a duly called meeting, or it is stipulated in your gov. docs that Robert's Rules be adhered to.

Don't get me wrong, I believe Robert's Rules to be a useful guide to protect the interests of the whole. However, I find the rules to be a bit parliamentary (old world), and have had first hand experience that the procedures can be a hindrance because of its formalities.

GeraldT1

SwanB
(Washington)

Posts:199


06/28/2006 7:02 AM  
You are asking if 'non-members' are allowed or prohibited from attending Board meetings, right?
How do your governing documents define members? Is there a large distinction in your HOA between people who live there who are members and who are not?
In our HOA, a member is defined as the titled owner of the lot. We are a community property state and our definition further defines the membership parameters of a marital community and also the 'members' in a situation of multiple owners of a lot. All of these members (and their representative(s)) are allowed to attend Board meetings not by our governing documents but by the RCWs or State statues.
BradP
(Kansas)

Posts:2640


06/28/2006 7:12 AM  
While I don't think it is any business of a non-member to speak at a meeting, you would have to be careful about restricting non-members. That would mean a parent could not stop by with their child and attend the meeting for a few minutes because the child is not a member, or at least is not as it is defined in our association.

We have enough trouble getting people to show up to our meetings, so I am not too concerned if they are members or not unless they try to speak.

RogerB
(Colorado)

Posts:5067


06/28/2006 7:49 AM  
DR, no that is not true in any state where the HOA's documents state otherwise. For example many By-laws and non-profit corporations (I think) allow a non-member to represent a member.
EdR
(Texas)

Posts:170


06/28/2006 8:58 AM  
Another point is this: some bylaws of HOAs allow non-homeowners to even run and be elected to their boards (ours allows this). So what is the definition of a member? I do not consider a non-owner a member (they are not paying assessments). It is my understanding that the builders wrote the rules--CC&Rs and Bylaws. The former president of our HOA moved from the community almost a year before her term was up and continued to run the show. I don't approve of this rule, really. We have had selective speakers at our HOA board meetings--ones that were allowed because they were friends of the board, others disallowed because they were not friends of theirs. It would be difficult for a board to justify allowing an outsider of their choice to speak and not an outsider of a member's choice, but then our board isn't too fair or scrupulous.
EdR
BrianB
(California)

Posts:2820


06/28/2006 10:58 AM  
Most associations are "private" businesses, and can restrict attendance and speaking rights to those with membership or business with the association. I don't own IBM shares, so i don't just drop by their board meetings to say Hi or see how things are going, for instance.

One way to do allow controlled access is with a set agenda: Leave a portion of a meeting for new business or input from non members. ANother is to notify only members of the time and place of the meetings. a third is to restrict entrance, which is technically "legal" if your by laws support it.

As mentioned above, Roberts Rules are guidelines, not statutes. And you should carefully define who is a member/owner in your association. In general, I fall into the camp of wishing anyone would attend a board meeting, and keeping the workings of the board open and transparent. You rarely get into trouble with open doors.
Please login to post a reply (click Member Login on the menu).
Forums > Homeowner Association > HOA Discussions > Members attending Board Meetings



Get 2 months of free community web site hosting from Community123.com!



News Articles Provided by: Community Associations Network
News, articles and blogs about condos/HOA's

Only members have access to all features.
Click here to join HOATalk for Free! Members click here to login and access all features.







General Legal Notice:  The content of forum messages are from the posting member and have not been reviewed nor endorsed by HOATalk.com.  Messages posted by HOATalk or other members are for informational purposes only, are not legal or professional advice and do not constitute an attorney-client relationship.  Readers should not act upon this information without seeking professional counsel.  HOATalk is not a licensed attorney, CPA, tax advisor, financial advisor or any other licensed professional.  HOATalk accepts ads from sponsors but does not verify sponsor qualifications nor endorse/guarantee any sponsor's product or service.
HindmanSanchez Legal Notice:  (For messages posted by HindmanSanchez) This message has been prepared by HindmanSanchez for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal advice. This information is not intended to create, and receipt of it does not constitute an attorney-client relationship. Members of HOATalk.com should not act on this information without seeking professional counsel. Please do not send us confidential information unless you speak with one of our attorneys and get authorization to send that information to us. If you wish to initiate possible representation, please contact an attorney in our firm. Our attorneys are licensed to practice law in the state of Colorado only.

Legal Notice For Messages Posted by Sponsoring Attorneys: This message has been prepared by the sponsoring attorney for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal advice. This information is not intended to create, and receipt of it does not constitute an attorney-client relationship. Readers of HOATalk.com should not act on this information without seeking professional counsel. Please do not send any sponsoring attorney confidential information unless you speak with the sponsoring attorney or an attorney from the sponsoring attorney’s firm and get authorization to send that information to them. If you wish to initiate possible representation, please contact an attorney in the firm of the sponsoring attorney. Sponsoring attorneys that post messages here are licensed to practice law in a specific state or states as indicated in their message signature or sponsor’s profile page. (NOTE: A ‘sponsoring attorney’ is an attorney that is a HOATalk.com official sponsor and is identified as such in the posted message or on our sponsor page.)

Copyright HOA Talk.com, A Service of Community123 LLC ( Homeowners Association Discussions )   Terms Of Use  Privacy Statement