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EllenS1 (Florida)
Posts: 1,148
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When interviewing new owners/tenants for a condo in Florida does anyone know what questions are or are not allowed? DonnaS. I hope you see this and respond.
KirkW1 (Texas)
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When interviewing new owners/tenants for a condo in Florida does anyone know what questions are or are not allowed?

You interview new owners of condos? What, then if they don't pass they can't move in?? Sorry, but it the whole thing sounds like a lawsuit looking for a jury.

I would highly recommend that your drop the practice yesterday. Instead opt to have them fill out some contact information. I would expand it to include contact information in case of a building emergency while they are at work. And perhaps even optional place so they could let you know who to contact should the unthinkable occur and you need to notify the next of kin. At the same time they should receive (and even sign for) a copy of all rules.

Then you might even go so far as to arrange for a real welcome packet to arrive shortly after they move in. (Perhaps you can include a question on expected date of occupancy.) It need not be elaborate, just something to say "I want to be a good neighbor. An interview of any sort is not a nice welcome message.
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
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Yup, Kirk, it's true. Interviews are done. It's very specific in our documents, too. They're "supposed" to be interviewed BEFORE the sale is final. But if the interviewers feel the prospective owner if not "fit" to live in the community then the Association must purchase the condo. So of course no one has ever been denied their right to purchase. We make it more of an "introduction" interview. We explain what our community is all about, explain the rules and the enforcement process, discuss the amenities,(or lack there of). Sometimes after the "interview" the prospective buyer decides this isn't what they were looking for. Everything is up front and honest. It works out for both parties. Saves everyone a lot of headaches, and buyers remorse.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
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WHO is doing this "interview"?

Sorry, but any relevant issues should be in the hands of the buyer when he/she looks at the property and my realtor should be the one going over the CCRs and Rules.

I would not participate in any after-the-fact "interview".
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
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Ellen:

I guess before anyone can really answer it would probably be helpful to see what your documents say about interviews and to also know what information you are trying to get out of them...perhaps after that we can give you some insight...however, I would strongly encourage a legal opinion on any and all questions you might want to ask.
KirkW1 (Texas)
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Yup, Kirk, it's true. Interviews are done. It's very specific in our documents, too. They're "supposed" to be interviewed BEFORE the sale is final. But if the interviewers feel the prospective owner if not "fit" to live in the community then the Association must purchase the condo.

I don't think that I would want to live there. That is just a bad, bad, bad idea. Consider that the cost could only just begin with the purchase price of the condo. You could then possibly be sued by the prospective purchaser under federal fair housing laws.

While you are stuck with it, I would make the interview consist of "Welcome to the neighborhood. Do you agree to abide the rules?", and "Can we please have your contact information in case something horrible should go wrong?" Followed by "Can I offer you a helpful list of nearby groceries, restaurants, etc?

I would hate to think about implications if the family even got spooked in the interview.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
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Ellen,

This antiquated system of doing an "interview" has got to be taken out of all documents. The liabilities for any association that might cross the line and ask the wrong questions is huge. Basically, you cannot ask questions that are personal in nature. The basics, race, religion, sexual preferences, you know, anything that might offend or step into Federal Fair Housing laws, etc.

I made a huge fuss over an interviewer for one of my rental places. We redid the "interview" and created a "Introduction to the Community Rules and Regs" Basically, it was a reading of what is expected of the new resident as for behaviors and concequences. You cannot deny anyone tenancy because they live differently or think differently. Just make sure that they know what is expected of them or they will have concequences. Explain the fining procedures and just make sure that they are aware of the cost of non compliances.
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
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Thanks Donna for jumping into the mix here! I tried to explain in my post, exactly what you "re-explained" here. We try to make it an introduction process; and yes, it needs to be removed from the documents.

I would NEVER rely on a realtor to "explain" or get someone to "agree" to follow the documents. Realtors are up to ONE THING and one thing only.....to make a sale. They are NOT representatives for the association and we've seen numerous problems with realtors "promsing the world"....yes you can have pets (only ones five pounds or less and 100% indoors); yes there are amenities for children, (only if they stay inside---no play ground)"...the list goes on and on. Realtors are NOT A representitive of the board or the association. They "push" papers through. Anything to close a sale.

Then the poor buyer is stuck with explaining that the "realtor told them this and that and such and such". We've told new residents to go after the realtor....not us. The realtor isn't a representative of the association. They SHOULD be held accountable; but they're the first ones to supercede and "interpret" the laws, statutes, rules and by-laws of an association. Just to make a sale.

Interviewing eliminates a lot of that. Beforehand.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Hi Anna,
Yes, as I said, the system of the so called "Interview" is written into almost every association Documents that I have ever seen down there in Florida. It is for Condos, and shared walled communitites, not stand alone homes. I guess the original purpose was to make the prospected buyer aware of the rules and requirements of the communnity but somewhere along the line, it got shortened into "Interview"

There is no legal basis for any community to dissallow any prospective buyer. The seller would have good grounds for a lawsuit against the association unless as your documents state, that the association would purchase the unit. But this has become so outdated and Federal Fair Housing laws trump any association rules of denial. BUT!! many associations will not sign the occupancy approval slip without a buyer going thru the "Interview". Without that, the purchaser cannot close on the contract.

Can you imagine??? A buyer cannot close the deal on his new home because --say---he is Muslum and the association is scared of that?
EllenS1 (Florida)
Posts: 1,148
Posted:
Donnas,

Thanks for your input. I rented a condo on the Intracoastal in So. Fl but that was about 20 years ago. The "interview" was much more of an introduction to each other. I don't even recall them telling me about the rules, etc ut I do recall filling out an application and one question was my annual income. Looking back, that was ridiculous. Even if that question were asked I would think the owner I was renting from to credit check me or ask what my income was. Changing the docs will not be easy since the majority of units are occupied by renters with out of town owners.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
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Ellen,
Now days, they could not even ask what you annual income is because they cannot have that information but the landlord/owner can ask and do a credit check. They do need to update the so called interview to another name with a clear guideline as to what questions or information will be shared. As I said, this is really the old school of thinking doing these interviews.
HaroldS (Arizona)
Posts: 906
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"Sometimes after the "interview" the prospective buyer decides this isn't what they were looking for. Everything is up front and honest. It works out for both parties. Saves everyone a lot of headaches, and buyers remorse."

So if the buyer backs out after that interview, do they get their deposit back? The buyer backed out because of information provided by your "interviewer." Isn't that interference with a contract? Does your seller have any recourse? "It works out for both parties." I imagine the seller is not one of those two parties.
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
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Harold, I understand your points. But too often realtors are so desperate to sell they'll misrepresent the association and the rules. We've had realtors tell people that pets are allowed. Then people bring in 120 pound dogs when our rules state 100% INDOOR pets, 15 pounds or less with NO leashed pets and no pets allowed on the grounds.

Realtors have stated "all ages welcome" when we have no amenities for children and kids aren't allowed on the grounds because it's all retention ponds and ditches to hold rain water; there is NO designated play area and we have none available.

They've said "ample parking" when people have only ONE assigned parking space and are not allowed to ever have more than two cars on the property.

They've listed it as having a "club house"; which is actually a converted laundry room where we cram ourselves in there to have meetings with one six-foot table and a few folding chairs.

The worst is when they state we are FULLY FUNDED....then find out we're not and they pay monthly maintenace fees and are subject to assessments. Realtors paint a "glowing" picture. "Interview" is the WRONG word to use.....but the meeting should be necessary so these poor people aren't given the wrong impression of what they're buying.

I'll shut up about this now.
KirkW1 (Texas)
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The worst is when they state we are FULLY FUNDED....then find out we're not and they pay monthly maintenace fees and are subject to assessments.

I would recommend you become fully funded. This doesn't mean an end to maintenance fees. What it does mean is that your fees are enough to cover the major expenses along the way. It is the only fair thing to do. From the sound of it, I wouldn't think you would need a huge reserve to become fully funded. But you would need to do a reserve study to determine what reserves you should have. Then you could come up with a plan to become funded.
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
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Kirk, it doesn't mean that we don't put money into the reserves every month. A HUGE chunk of our monthly maintenance fees DOES go into the reserves and are earmarked for certain items--roof, painting, pool, and parking lot. The percentage put into each category IS determined by the "life expectancy" of each of the above items. There are "fully-funded" and "not fully-funded" options. So please don't think we're being irresponsible.
LaverneB (Florida)
Posts: 129
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We have what we call a 'WELCOME" interview. We go over the docs, maintance, etc...It has always worked out well for both party's. As a gated HOA you have to have some idea as to who is your neighbor. But for renters we handle it a little different since they don't own the home.
LaverneB (Florida)
Posts: 129
Posted:
We have what we call a 'WELCOME" interview. We go over the docs, maintance, etc...It has always worked out well for both party's. As a gated HOA you have to have some idea as to who is your neighbor. But for renters we handle it a little different since they don't own the home.

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