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WilliamS1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 113
Posted:
I am a fairly new hoa board president and wanting to do a good job. I have identified a few very important things that I myself would like to see accomplished and I am driving hard at them. We like to limit the monthly meetings to about 1.5 to 2 hours per month, but whith committee reports and the like, we are not able to get into anything really new or pressing in my opinion. Because of schedules, it is very difficult to meet more often.

I have started sending out some paper work mid month for the board members ot read over and be familier with, so when we get into the meeting, we can move through discussion and decisions faster. The paper work are articles and broshures to look over and think about and it might take 1-2 hours to look over.

Is this typical?
Is there a good way to do this?
Am I pushing to hard?

Thanks
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
William:

I don't think this is unrealistic. I am in constant communication with my board between meetings via email. It saves times, sometimes decisions can be made in between meetings. To me it is a lot better than getting together once a month and going over a bunch of stuff.
hoatalk (California)
Posts: 599
Posted:
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SwanB (Washington)
Posts: 199
Posted:
Our nine member Board meets once a month and we are able to keep our meetings under 3 hours long. We get through the Community members forum, Director's reports, Unfinished Business and New Business in this amount of time. (Also, opening and closing the meeting, recognizing those attending, approval of minutes, etc.)
We rely on keeping in touch by phone or email the rest of the month. We use every opportunity to contact each other for opinions and input and to update on our areas of focus.
One thing I do want to stress though; beware of the tendency of some Boards to start meeting in smaller groups. This lends an air of exclusivity and isolates those who aren't part of those meetings. Bad feelings can arise from this sort of thing. Especially if the group of four comes away from a meeting with a plan of action and wants to convince the rest of the Board to agree to it.
GeraldT1 (<Not Specified>)
Posts: 519
Posted:
WilliamS1,

My community consists of an hoa (sf and twnhse)and coa (twnhse), all in one property. The Boards meet in joint workshop session twice a month, and an open meeting once a month on the same night for both associations. Meetings can go on for 2-3 hours depending on the time of year, and what's up in the community.

Have you found that you are getting things accomplished quicker in meetings, now that you've started providing information mid-month? If not, then the paperwork is not helping but it certainly is not hurting. It's very typical and you are not pushing too hard. It could be you are not demanding enough, or that the other board members don't understand how the paperwork factors into the association related matters.

As for email, be careful you set up ground rules and it doesn't involve debates. Email is a good method to provide quick information, but all communication be it paperwork or email must be received by everyone in order to be fair to their decision making process. You do not want board business to become discussion blogs, that's like multiple conversations going on at once. Discussion blogs are awesome for the communication we provide to eachother in this format on hoatalk. I do not think discussion blogs are good to conduct official and binding board business.

You must set up ground rules if you get into email. Let's say email or any communication other than an open meeting discussion is used for a vote. Lets say timing is of the essence. A decent response time for the vote should be provided. Let's say this happens mid month before or right after an open meeting. Your by-laws or state statues may have a provision that the owners be notifified of the decision no later than a certain time period. Often it's 7 days.

Email must not be for debates, I have learned this well. Board members can form opinions and decide matters in the process of excluding other board members who may have delayed access to email and come late to the debate.

MarieR (Iowa)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Thank you, GeraldT1

Your message on the pitfalls of email was very politely put.

Having recently been a victim of email "flaming" by our Board president,
I agree with you completely and hope the take-home message that
emails are for FYI's but not for debate comes through loud & clear..

(Our member resigned as president, but still keeps flaming
on as a member of the Board ....)

It's a real problem.

Eileen

WilliamT (Arizona)
Posts: 489
Posted:
Posted By GeraldT1 on 06/19/2006 11:53 AM
You must set up ground rules if you get into email. Let's say email or any communication other than an open meeting discussion is used for a vote..
.
...Email must not be for debates...


Gerald,

I note that you mention in one case email is used for a vote. Then you say email must not be used for debates.

This is of interest to me because our bylaws state that our board can take any action outside of a meeting as long as all board members agree.

That means we can vote for an action via email, and is good for actions that can't wait for the regular meeting.

Now, if the board votes on an action, there is normally some debate preceding the vote, so I'm a bid confused by your statement that email must not be for debates, but is used for a vote. It would help me a great deal to completely understand the process you use.

I'm new on this board, and this year the board elected to have meetings quarterly, which in my opinion is far to spread out because a lot of things need to be done, and don't get done.

In addition the president insists that we not communicate via email unless it is an emergency. All regular business must wait until the meeting. So while the email capability is there, the president says he doesn't have time to communicate; and there is another board member who never responds to any email. The president will not be president forever, so things will change one day, and I hope to be prepared.

Bill

RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
As a Managing Agent I use emails to Board members between quarterly Board meetings to get the Board's approval an actions such using a contractor for a small job which does not require sealed bids. I present details of the job, the contractor, and the cost in an email to all. When a majority of the Directors provide an email approving the job, it is completed. These procedures have been previously established and recorded in Board minutes.
GeraldT1 (<Not Specified>)
Posts: 519
Posted:
Bill,

Voting and debating, or just informative discussing, are not one in the same. Ideally all occur in front of the community, but sometimes this can't be achieved.

The one and only time we used email for an official vote was, believe it or not, for the transition firm we decided to contract.

However, the vote question was "Which firm do you vote to award the contract for the Transition Study and Capital Reserve Analysis?". Timing was of the essence to award the contract.

The debating, interviews, dicussions, etc. had already occurred prior to the email vote. Communication of our decision was made at the next open meeting and was very openly broadcast to the community.

Does the one board member that does not respond to the email at least contact a person to communicate his or her opinion? See, all the opinions, or votes of all board members should be heard in an environment where everyone can hear their inflection. That is where email is flawed and I don't blame the board member or president from abstaining in the technology for debates, but fyi's or voting if the topic has been debated can help the association business.

Quarterly meetings, while permissible in many associations, are in my opinion inadequate.

Hope this helps you understand the distinction between debates, and voting.

GeraldT1
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
I think if it is used correctly that email is a valuable tool. I frequently use it to bounce ideas off of my board and occasionally to get their vote on certain things. I always save and print off emails so if anyone questions the validity of it I have it in writing. It is understood that for us it is a normal way of doing business. I don't think it is appropriate to present a new idea and to vote on it, but is very helpful to vote on existing items, or to bounce ideas.
WilliamT (Arizona)
Posts: 489
Posted:
Gerald,

Thanks for the clarification. It helped.

Bill

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