Posted By BryanD2 on 05/14/2008 7:23 AM
Our Covenants read as follows:

7.22 Artificial Vegetation, Gardens, Play Equipment, Exterior Sculpture, Water Features, and Similar Items.

No artificial vegetation shall be permitted on the exterior of any property. No vegetable garden, hammock, statuary, play equipment (including, without limitation, basketball goals), exterior sculpture, fountains, flags or water feature may be erected on any lot, without the prior written approval in accordance with the provisions of Article 6 hereof and/or compliance with written guidelines established under Article 6 hereof, as applicable.

Posted By CharlesW1 on 05/14/2008 7:52 AM
BryanD2,

Your covenants sound very similar to mine. Although, upon inspections (monthly) if observed from the front of the house they are in violation of the governing documents. According to our covenants. Which I have attached.

Our board has made it very clear that the BB goals, MUST be portable and MUST be out of sight from the road when NOT in use (as stated in our covenants), certainly reasonable to those who wish to NOT play basketball or shoot a few hoops!

I too would agree with your interpretations until the covenant clearly states otherwise.

Unfortunately it’s been an ongoing battle for several years but with determination and perseverance our community has very few BB goals visible from the street, to this day.

Best of luck to you.
Chuck W.

Posted By DJ1 on 05/14/2008 11:31 AM
Whew, glad we don't have to drag our portable unit to the back after each use!

Posted By CharlesW1 on 05/15/2008 4:55 AM





DJ1,

Whew, thank God I DON’T LIVE NEXT TOO YOU!

Obviously, living outside of an association “works” well for you and your family. Congratulation!

Chuck W

Posted By MicheleD on 05/15/2008 5:38 AM


So, tell me again that basketball goals don't impact a sale? I might not say anything to my realtor, but if I look at a house that I have to dodge basketball goals to get down the street, or that has a neighbor's backboard facing my yard. . . not thanks, I'll pass. . . next house please. . .

Posted By MikeS1 on 05/14/2008 10:41 AM
Is this a Townhome or single family community?

Posted By CharlesW1 on 05/16/2008 8:14 AM


BryanD2,

I agree with your previously written post to a certain extent. My wife and I also enjoy seeing children playing outside; it tells us both that these kids aren’t huddle up in the house playing video games of wandering the streets causing trouble as you have stated.

MY SUGGESTION (EARLIER POSTED) WAS TO PUT SAND BAGS ON THE BASE OF THE BB GOAL TO KEEP IT FROM FALLING OVER, which can be removed daily and YES at which point can be rolled away WHEN NOT IN USE. Especially on concrete!

You can’t be serious with that particular challenge, are you?! “I would challenge anyone to fill a portable goal up with sand or water and move it more than a few feet on concrete, much less on dirt/grass or on an angle.”

I think you may want to withdraw that particular statement, due to the fact that I have observed several homeowners (women in particular, NO OFFENSE LADIES) roll their child’s BB goal from the beauty strip, down their driveway (concrete mind you) and then processed across the grass to her backyard on numerous occasions. Rather easily as well.

Chuck W.

Posted By MicheleD on 05/15/2008 10:25 PM
Bryan, respectfully, that is why MOST of those types of things, in fact, ARE controlled or restricted in MOST neighborhoods (deed restricted neighborhoods).

Even the constantly barking dog, if it rises to the level of nuisance, can and is often addressed.

It's naive to think otherwise and just plain bogus to compare maneuvering through a basketball-goal obstacle course with a house color. But, point in fact, many of HOAs DO control that (house color) as well.

And I would certainly like to see the buyer who would think dodging a basketball goal obstacle course were a house-purchase draw. There might be one...or two of them out there. But it's a stretch.

Basketball goal placement is one of many CC&Rs that are intended to reduce the negative impact to the value of the homes in the area. Not because ONE person's basketball goal may or may not be an "eyesore" to someone else or may or may not "bother" ONE neighbor. Eyesore is not the issue at all. Disturbing the neighborhood, however, IS. And again, while ONE BB Goal may not have an impact, five, or 10 or more on ONE street will. Absolutely it will. Again, naive to think otherwise. And there is no way to affect or control the impact of those five or 10 without first having the ability to reasonably control or affect the ONE. The individual. Yours.

You could (and my guess just from your posts is that you probably do) say the exact same thing about each and every CC&R that does exist.

No. I am very glad that my HOA places such restrictions on basketball goal placement.

And the parking of commercial vehicles.

And the parking of motor homes and boats.

And the placement of garbage cans.

And on above-ground pools.

And on sheds and/or outbuildings.

And on fences.

And on signage.

And on and on and on.

One sign, no big deal; 275 advertising all sorts of fun tasty things. Big deal.

One motor home? not offensive. 275 parked shoulder to shoulder on quarter acre lots. Big deal.

The restrictions aren't there for the ONE, for your individual house alone ONLY. They are there for the MANY that could potentially grow and expand from the one, were there no control at all.

YOU can't have YOUR basketball goal out in the street, but by the same token, the OTHER 300 HOMES can't put THEIRS out there, either.

Thankfully. And you cannot ever convince me that my home would sell just as well, at an acceptable price to me were there a basketball goal forest woven through the streets in the subdivision.