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KennethC (Alabama)
Posts: 27
Posted:
As I mentioned in my previous post, I am a new home owner and now president of our association. I am glad to be in this position. I hope that we will be able to bring our HOA back to life and get some neglected items solved. Our next meeting will be the first I am to lead. I would appreicate any suggestions as to the Agenda and sticking to it.

This might sound stupid, but what do I say to start the meeting? Address a topic? take a vote? close a topic? close the meeting? can you tell I am nervous? I just havn't been exposed to this process beyond the couple of meetings so far(not so formal). I would like to be able to stay on tasks to keep the meetings from running too long.

Again, any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ken
GeraldT1 (<Not Specified>)
Posts: 519
Posted:
Ken - Congratulations on your appointment. I'm not sure what state you reside in however in new jersey there are laws with requirements for hoa's. Our governing documents for the most part comply, however our state department of community affairs (DCA) superseeds our by-laws. Check out the following link for new jersey and research your DCA: www.state.nj.us/dca/codes/newhome_warranty/assoc_regs_initiative.shtml
Agendas to the extent known and regulary scheduled meetings require postings 48 hours in advance to comply with the laws. Typcially our meetings are started with the statement that the meeting is in compliance with the law with a citing of the law (N.J.S.A. 46:8B-13a).
Your governing documents may offer some additional guidance on agendas of meetings. Old business proceeds new business. Votes are proceeded by motions from one board member, seconded by another and then a vote taken. In my association, unit owners are allowed to address the board or community in an open forum portion that is after board business. Expect the unforseen to happen and don't worry about it. This is where a couple deep breaths and your common sense and expertise will prove invaluable. Close the meeting by stating when the next regularly scheduled meeting is to occur. Good luck and congratulations!! Gerald
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
Ken:

I know how you feel, I am not the best at public speaking, but here is what I do:

I usually start the meeting 5 minutes after the scheduled time in case of late arrivers, then thank everyone for showing up and I thank the homeowner whose home we are using.

Then we go through a roll call if we have people that I don't know, otherwise I just pass out a sign-up sheet for the minutes. Then we pass out copies of last meetings meetings and ask if there are any questions or comments, if not they are approved.

After that we just go down the agenda and address each item. The key is to keep everyone on task and minimize ramblings and small talk that goes off topic.

At the end after we open it up for homeowners to speak and if there are no comments I thank everyone for coming.

I run a pretty laid back meeting, but we stay on task, and generally things go well.

Brad
KennethC (Alabama)
Posts: 27
Posted:
Posted By GeraldT1 on 06/12/2006 12:34 PM

Ken - Congratulations on your appointment. I'm not sure what state you reside in however in new jersey there are laws with requirements for hoa's. ....
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Your governing documents may offer some additional guidance on agendas of meetings. Old business proceeds new business. Votes are proceeded by motions from one board member, seconded by another and then a vote taken. In my association, unit owners are allowed to address the board or community in an open forum portion that is after board business. Expect the unforseen to happen and don't worry about it. This is where a couple deep breaths and your common sense and expertise will prove invaluable. Close the meeting by stating when the next regularly scheduled meeting is to occur. Good luck and congratulations!! Gerald


It is in Alabama, but I will take a look at the sight you mentioned.

Thanks for your post,

Ken
KennethC (Alabama)
Posts: 27
Posted:
Posted By BradP on 06/12/2006 12:38 PM

Ken:

I know how you feel, I am not the best at public speaking, but here is what I do:

I usually start the meeting 5 minutes after the scheduled time in case of late arrivers, then thank everyone for showing up and I thank the homeowner whose home we are using.

Then we go through a roll call if we have people that I don't know, otherwise I just pass out a sign-up sheet for the minutes. Then we pass out copies of last meetings meetings and ask if there are any questions or comments, if not they are approved.

After that we just go down the agenda and address each item. The key is to keep everyone on task and minimize ramblings and small talk that goes off topic.

At the end after we open it up for homeowners to speak and if there are no comments I thank everyone for coming.

I run a pretty laid back meeting, but we stay on task, and generally things go well.

Brad


Thanks for the post!

JohnA (Texas)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Community Associations and Parliamentary Procedure

“Laws should be like clothes. They should be made to fit the people they serve,” advised Clarence Darrow. Similarly, the procedures used during meetings should be made to fit the particular organization as well as the particular meeting.

ANNUAL MEETING PROCEDURES
In contrast, procedures in the annual meeting of a community association must be more formal. Informal discussion of matters is impractical due to the number of members present. Unless strict rules of debate are followed, members may perceive the presiding officer is showing favoritism. Limits on debate must be observed to keep the meeting on time. Formal votes help avoid legal challenges to actions taken.

ORDER OF BUSINESS
Part of any annual meeting should be a systematic plan for the orderly conduct of business. The sequence in which business is taken up during a meeting is known as the “Order of Business.” The Order of Business is a blueprint for the meeting and typically has the following components:

• OPENING THE MEETING
The presiding officer should never call the meeting to order until a quorum is present. A quorum is the number of members entitled to vote who must be present in order for business to be legally transacted. Quorum is typically defined in the governing documents of the community association.

Once a quorum is present, the presiding officer calls the meeting to order by stating, “The meeting will come to order.”

• APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Organizations that only meet one time per year typically do not approve minutes. Instead, the board of directors or another committee should be authorized to approve the minutes. Such a practice makes sense because few members are likely to remember what occurred at a meeting held a year ago.

In meetings when minutes are to be approved, the minutes are typically distributed to all members so that they do not have to be read aloud. Corrections and approval are normally done by unanimous consent. That is, the presiding officer can ask, “Is there any objection to approving the minutes as read [or distributed].” If there is no objection, the minutes are approved.

• REPORTS OF OFFICERS, BOARDS, AND STANDING COMMITTEES
The first substantive item of business in meetings is typically hearing from the officers and established boards and committees. The logic in this order of arrangement is to give priority to the items of business from the leadership. Typically, the presiding officer learns in advance who needs to report and only calls on those officers, boards, and committees that have reports.

Reports are generally for information only. In such instances, no motion is necessary following the reports unless there are recommendations to be implemented. A motion “to adopt” or “to accept” a report is seldom wise except when the report is to be issued or published in the name of the organization. On the other hand, it is common that the reporting member end by making a motion if there is a specific recommendation for action.

For example, the budget committee may have studied the current dues structure. In her report, the committee chairman might thank the members of the committee for their hard work and explain in detail the committee’s position and reasoning. At the end of her report, the committee chair would close by saying, “On behalf of the committee, I move that annual dues be increased to $25.00.”

• REPORTS OF SPECIAL COMMITTEES
Unlike standing committees established in the bylaws, special committees do not have continual existence. Instead, special committees exist solely for the purpose of a specific project. For example, a special committee might be created to plan a specific function or event. Special committees typically go out of existence upon their final report.

• UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Unfinished business refers to matters carried over from a previous meeting. This category of business is sometime incorrectly referred to as “old business.” “Old business” is a misnomer in that unfinished business is not simply items that have been discussed previously. Instead, unfinished business items typically fall into one of several specific categories. For organizations that meet at least four times a year, unfinished business may include:
(1) any matter that was pending when the previous meeting adjourned;
(2) any matters on the previous meeting’s agenda that were not reached; or
(3) matters that were postponed to the present meeting.

The presiding officer should know if there are any items to be considered under unfinished business. As a result, the presiding officer should not ask, “Is there any unfinished business?” Instead, the presiding officer should simply state the question on the first item of business. If there is no unfinished business, the presiding officer should skip this category of business.

• NEW BUSINESS
Much of the work in a meeting is accomplished during the heading of new business. In this category of business, members can introduce any new item of for consideration. As a result, the presiding officer may be unaware of what items of business will arise under new business.

The presiding officer introduces the heading of new business by asking, “Is there any new business?” Any member can then introduce new items of business by making a motion and obtaining a second. Following the consideration of each item, the chair repeatedly asks, “Is there any further new business?” This process continues until there are no additional business items to come before the assembly.

• CLOSING THE MEETING
In most assemblies the presiding officer can adjourn the meeting without waiting for a motion to adjourn. If all items of business have been considered, the presiding officer can ask, “Is there any further business?” If there is no response, the presiding officer simply states, “Since there is no further business, the meeting is adjourned.”

If custom or tradition require that a motion to adjourn be made, the presiding officer can ask, “Is there a motion to adjourn?” Once the motion is made and seconded, the presiding officer can ask, “Is there any objection to adjourning the meeting? Hearing no objection, the meeting is adjourned.”

BOARD PROCEDURES
Conduct of business often varies by assembly size. Most parliamentary manuals provide that the conduct in smaller boards and committees can be more informal. Robert’s Rules of Order Newly Revised (10th Edition) suggests that the formal procedure used by larger groups could hinder business in a board meeting of fewer than a dozen. As a result, smaller boards and committees can follow an informal procedure, such that:
Members are not required to obtain the floor and can make motions or speak while seated.
Motions need not be seconded.
There is no limit to the number of times a member can speak to a question, and motions to close or limit debate generally should not be entertained (unless the group has adopted a rule to the contrary).
The chair need not rise while putting questions to vote.
The chair can speak in discussion without rising or leaving the chair; and
Subject to rule or custom, the chair usually can make motions and usually votes on all questions.

If a matter is of sufficient importance or controversy, the board can always follow more formal procedures.

CONCLUSION
Good organization cannot by itself guarantee a successful meeting. However, a lack of structure is almost certain to cause confusion and dissatisfaction among members. As a result, efforts spent in planning the process of a meeting are well worth the effort. The best meetings use procedures and an order of business that are perfectly tailored to fit the occasion.

Jim Slaughter, JD, CPP-T, PRP
KennethC (Alabama)
Posts: 27
Posted:
Thanks! This is a great help!
SwanB (Washington)
Posts: 199
Posted:
Here is an agenda from a recent Board meeting of ours, with some comments after each item for you:

Call to order-This allows an announcement of time and recognition of all the Board members and their titles present and absent and thanking everyone who is attending.

Members' Comment Period-Each member identifies themselves and speaks for 3 minutes or chooses to pass after giving their name and address to the Secretary.
Any 'new business' is decided on and added to the agenda or given to a Director to pursue.

Approval of Minutes-goes without saying

Director's Reports-Each director gives their report since the last Board meeting and necessary actions and decisions are decided on.

Unfinished Business-These items are carried over from the previous Board meeting and actions, directions or discussions are decided upon.

New Business-The new items are discussed, reviewed and action decided upon.

Adjournment-The announcement is made "The ___ Board of Directors open meeting adjourned at _____p.m."

If you need to go into a closed session at this point to discuss a legal action or a personnel action you then must announce you are doing this to your open session and what the closed session is going to be over; i.e a legal issue or personnel contract and then you ask every one but the Board to leave and thank them for coming.
Have fun and remember, your job is to keep everyone on track as to the particular agenda item you are on.

KennethC (Alabama)
Posts: 27
Posted:
SwanB:

Thanks for the post!
CharlieT (Texas)
Posts: 12
Posted:
I'm chairman of an advisory commmittee. We have a member that critizes the minutes and the secretay rather than state what needs corrections. Can I announce he is out of order and that only corrections will be accepted?

Can I object to a motion? If so, how do I handle this?
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
The chair should can state "if there is no objection the minutes are approved as presented". Or could ask are there any additions or corrections to the minutes. The chair should cut off anyone giving criticisms.

The chair should accept all motions. For a large group ask if there is a second; if none the motion dies. For a small group, such as your advisory committee, a second is not required and it should go to discussion and a vote. If I remember correctly, the only time the chair can deneigh a motion is when it is out of order.
JohnA (Texas)
Posts: 6
Posted:

From Robert's Rules of Order - Summary Version

For Fair and Orderly Meetings & Conventions

Provides common rules and procedures for deliberation and debate in order to place the whole membership on the same footing and speaking the same language. The conduct of ALL business is controlled by the general will of the whole membership - the right of the deliberate majority to decide. Complementary is the right of at least a strong minority to require the majority to be deliberate - to act according to its considered judgment AFTER a full and fair "working through" of the issues involved.

Robert's Rules provides for constructive and democratic meetings, to help, not hinder, the business of the assembly. Under no circumstances should "undue strictness" be allowed to intimidate members or limit full participation.

The fundamental right of deliberative assemblies require all questions to be thoroughly discussed before taking action!

The assembly rules - they have the final say on everything!
Silence means consent!
Obtain the floor (the right to speak) by being the first to stand when the person speaking has finished; state Mr./Madam Chairman. Raising your hand means nothing, and standing while another has the floor is out of order!

Must be recognized by the Chair before speaking!

Debate can not begin until the Chair has stated the motion or resolution and asked "are you ready for the question?" If no one rises, the chair calls for the vote!

Before the motion is stated by the Chair (the question) members may suggest modification of the motion; the mover can modify as he pleases, or even withdraw the motion without consent of the seconder; if mover modifies, the seconder can withdraw the second.

The "immediately pending question" is the last question stated by the Chair! Motion/Resolution - Amendment - Motion to Postpone

The member moving the "immediately pending question" is entitled to preference to the floor!

No member can speak twice to the same issue until everyone else wishing to speak has spoken to it once!

All remarks must be directed to the Chair. Remarks must be courteous in language and deportment - avoid all personalities, never allude to others by name or to motives!

The agenda and all committee reports are merely recommendations! When presented to the assembly and the question is stated, debate begins and changes occur!
MarieR (Iowa)
Posts: 4
Posted:
If your By-laws specify Robert's Rules of Order, as most do,
then picking up a copy of the official verison is a great idea.

It contains the agenda template, as folks have pretty well described it here,
as well as everything & the kitchen sink about procedures.
There is an offical website iwth a forum that discusses topics that come up
It has a FAQ section.

http://www.robertsrules.com/
The original verison of Robert's is cumbersome, so there have been
many shorter versions published to help out us newbies who need
somethng simpler.

Either "robert's rules for dummies"
or "idiot's guide to robert's rules" might help &
contain sample agendas, & simple advice on how to handle a meeting.

There's usually a "parliamentary procedure" section in the reference
section of most bookstores where
Robert's & everything else can be found.
You might look for something that seems well-organized to you & curl up
with it before the your meeting.

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