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ShielaC (Arizona)
Posts: 1
Posted:
RE:Act amending section 33-1243,33-1250,33-1256,33-1260,33-1806 and 33-1807.

Does anyone know anything about about 33-1250. Voting; proxies?
I belong to the Oak Park Townhomes Asscociation in Tucson, AZ. I was a board member for five years and I am hoping to become a member again. We had our annual meeting Sunday, October 25th, however, we were not allowed to vote. The president said that an absentee ballots will be mailed at a later date. I have read and reread this seciton and I believe that the ballot should have mailed prior to the meeting. The vice-president agrees.

I hope that someone out there can clarify.

Sincerely,

Shiela Carlson
CaryL (Arizona)
Posts: 19
Posted:
You're correct, Shiela. The Absentee Ballots should have gone out at least several weeks before the meeting. That way, homeowners could looks them over, decide if they agree with the Slate of Officers, and mail them back in. Sounds as if they're in violation.

Cary
NacioC (Arizona)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Based on the new "House Bill 2154" No more voting by proxy

Simply -
For Homeowners: The association must provide for votes to be cast in person and by absentee ballot or some other form of delivery.

For Board Members: Absentee ballots must specify each proposed action, and it must provide an opportunity to vote for or against either action. The HOA must specify when the absentee ballot is to be returned, and residents must be given at least seven days to return it.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
NacioC, what does "some other form of delivery" mean? Seem to me that a proxy is a form of delivery. Another concern I would have is with the low attendance experienced by many HOAs the only way they achieve a quorum is with proxies and without a quorum no meeting and thus no votes can be cast in person. Not having proxies would be very bad for many HOAs. Looks like a poorly thought out bill.

Just my opinion,
Roger

NacioC (Arizona)
Posts: 4
Posted:
RogerB - good question on the "some other form of delivery", as this does sound somewhat ambiguous as does bullet point two, of the HB2154, under "Provisions" for proxies:

- Eliminates proxy voting from being used by association members.
- Allows the association to create other provisions for absentee voting.
- Allows timeshare plan associations to vote by proxy.
- Makes technical and conforming changes.

My assumption is that the HOA BOD's is allowed to create its own delivery process that conforms to bullet point one of the provisions in this House Bill.

Your comments on this are certainly valid as other HOA's in AZ have protested the bill based on the same argument that you stated. I certainly can't disagree!
CaryL (Arizona)
Posts: 19
Posted:
The way most HOA's (mine included) do it is to mail the ballots at least two or three weeks in advance. Homeowners can either bring the ballots to the Annual Meeting, or mail them in if not attending. The ballots incluude the BODs that the Nominating Committee promulgated, with room from write ins. Instructions also include when the absentee ballots must be received by the Secretary.
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
Absentee ballots have issues or names/candidates already printed on them for voting. Proxy ballots are "blank checks" given to another member to vote in any way or form, on any item.

Proxies are now outlawed, which does indeed put many HOA's into a bind: WIthout a strong board and community to provide delegates or candidates for offices, you can't nominate someone to be on the ballot. And without a nominee for the ballot, you cannot send out absentee ballots before a meeting. You also cannot accept nominees from the floor AT the meeting, because the absentee ballots won't have that candidate or issue on them... or you can, but then you have to send out all new ballots again, and hold another meeting to vote.

IMO, strong HOA's will get stronger, weak ones will simply get weaker. This will increase apathy among them, and the feeling of alienation from the process.
CaryL (Arizona)
Posts: 19
Posted:
Sounds like you live in my HOA, Brian Actually, we have a pretty good BOD this year, after having the same BOD run the place into the ground through neglect for over 12 years. Let's talk about Annual Audits. This year was the first time we had to do one. We found the former BOD had co-mingled funds and gave themselves interest free loans. We got the monies back, and it's too expense for us to sue for misconduct, but I'm wondering if we can ban the entire previous BOD from ever serving again, since they're all guilty of fiduciary misconduct.

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