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IrmaG (Arizona)
Posts: 11
Posted:
We have problems with getting people to volunteer to be on the board of directors. I believe this is mostly due to distance issues. We are all parcel owners of a large ranch that was split and sold in 40 acre parcels. Many of the property owners are from out of town and out of state. There are over 1000 property owners but very few that live on their parcels.

I thought that teleconferencing would be a solution. I know of 2 people that would serve if they could teleconference. The present board (of 4) is not going to like this. Electronic meetings have been brought up and shoved under the doormat in the past. The result is that rural, inexperienced people, run the board and volunteers who want to improve things work hard for a while and then burn out.

It is relatively inexpensive to do teleconferencing. It almost seems like it should be unlawful for the board to NOT approve this type of meeting. It is excluding most of the property owners from serving and contributing to the community as a whole.

As most - we have the legacy of Developer's CC&Rs to contend with as well as corporation & real estate statutes.

Suggestions? Comments?

Thanks
DanaA (Florida)
Posts: 117
Posted:
As for teleconferencing, in Florida, our state statutes say we are allowed to do this as long as all on the teleconference call can speak and be heard by all attendees, and the BOD meeeting is still open to the public. The BOD members that call in are considered "present". For ours, we hold the BOD meeting as usual in the clubhouse, and the local board members sit around a speaker phone, and have the other directors connect into it. The meeting is not as effective,IMO, because we are not all face to face. In addition, our President is a snowbird, and he is usually the one dialing in, and it is particularly difficult if you have a meeting chaired by someone through a telephone, though possible. Question: How many BODs do your bylaws say form your board? You mention there are four, and usually there are odd numbers of directors for voting situations. And are your meetings required to be open?
CharlesW1 (Georgia)
Posts: 826
Posted:
IrmaG,

You may want to review your governing documents perhaps they allow such. In Georgia the board (BOD) can teleconference as it states so in our documents.

Beside what could possible be wrong with that, perhaps the ONLY resolution! I would present it to the board just that way. β€œEither you allow teleconferences or the association abolishes the HOA completely, which would be a HUGE problem in itself. IMO,I think they will reconsider once the BOD realize the options.

Best of luck
Chuck W.

Charles E. Wafer Jr.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
I think, in your situation, having fewer board meetings and MORE committee meetings may be an answer. In your situation, committees could be handling more decisions (within its budget) and they can then report to the Board.

Sometimes boards discuss and deliberate, and make all kinds of micro-managing decisions, when in reality, it should be governing.
IrmaG (Arizona)
Posts: 11
Posted:
Hi Susan,
Thanks for your answer. I think you are right, Committees will take the burden off, but participation has to be elicited first. Change has to happen a little at a time.
I just became involved and this board has been struggling for several years now with no support. They are not savvy in HOW to get the administrative end done, so they spin their wheels, doing their best, getting discouraged and giving up (quitting).
Thanks
IrmaG (Arizona)
Posts: 11
Posted:
Hi DanaA,

To answer your questions:
There are 4 on the board, 1 wants to resign as soon as they can replace her.
The bylaws mandate at least 7

Regards
IrmaG (Arizona)
Posts: 11
Posted:
Hi CharlesW1

Meetings by AZ statutes ARE mandated to be open (title 33 - real estate)
Meetings in AZ statutes allow for "any means" that the directors "can hear each other" (title 10 - non-profit corp & associations) which includes telephonic transmissions.
Meetings at our Association allow for "any means" that the directors "can hear each other" and "telephonic meetings" (added to bylaws 2005)

Why this was not implemented I do not know and am in the process of trying to find out. When I posted initially, I did not even know that had been added.

I've done the either/or to be brought forth at the next meeting. More like
Since the law and bylaws allow it
Is there not a legal and ethical responsibility for the board to implement it in order to ALLOW participation of all property owners?
(since there is lack of participation and owners presently due to logistics)

I think talking about dismantling the POA was done in the past and the consensus was that the people wanted to POA. Our POA has limited functions. Problem is the property involved is HUGE and not enough money or bodies to manage all these roads, wells, improvements, etc.

Regards and thanks.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
What do your bylaws say about fillng vacancies? If your bylaws say minimum 7, then do everything you can to get to the 7.

If you have wells that are common, then that is a vital commodity and service you provide, that really mandates a HOA. Either that or explore your municipality taking over the water system.

Our system, (2 huge wells that service 260 homes) with pipes installed since 1923, are so out of compliance that the county or township won't even taking over our non-complilant roads, bridges, or water system. We MUST maintain them!!
IrmaG (Arizona)
Posts: 11
Posted:
We maintain 2 huge wells that serve 1700 property owners. Luckily, they are not all living there (that will be a future problem as more people develop their parcels).

We maintain ALL our roads, culverts, gates as well as the 2 wells. I believe there were 3 wells initially. I'm not sure what happened to the 1 yet.

There is not a chance the county will take over anything in my lifetime, so that is not a worry or issue.

Yes, that is why the teleconferencing. We have interested and qualified people who would be board members IF they could teleconference. Both have been or are board members for non-profits before, one a president for 12 years. These are valuable assets as are the "hands on" board members that are ON the property. I don't think it would hurt our Association to have 3-4 teleconference board members and 3-4 "in house". I think that would be a 'step' in the right direction for looking to the future and it's challenges:
money
bodies (to do the work)

Regards

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