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TimothyU (North Carolina)
Posts: 2
Posted:
I am a newbie out here and appreciate any help.
I am in an association in NC that is seeing an increase in delinquent payments of quatrerly dues.

Our association has the ability to lien and foreclose, but we were wondering if anyone has experience with reporting past due owners to any of the credit reporting agencies as an interim step?

If so:
Are there fees involved ?
What type of delinquency period would be used ( ie, 30, 60, 90 day)
Do we need to establish a "credit relationship" with our owners? Or does
Are HOA dues the type of info they would even report on?
What type of worms would we be creating if we went this route?

Thanks for any help and thoughts

Tim
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Timothy,

Because your documents allow you to fine and lien, that is a good thing. There is a process by which you must follow, such as letters both regular and certified mail. From there, your State laws will tell you the process of liening a property but don't try it yourself. This is lawyer's work for best results.

Once a lien has been placed on a property, you need not worry about the credit reporting agencies getting that information. That is what they do for a living--get lien reports. Liens do not mean that you get your money back just because you filed it on a property. It means that until the property is sold, then you will probably be in line for collecting your associations lost money. People who get liened for something as cheap as dues and assessments will more than likely have their mortage company and a whole line ahead of you.

Our experience with liening was that we got paid back a percentage, depending on how the settlement was reached. It doesn't seem fair that certain people who have little reguard for paying their way thru society get away with shorting out all of their neighbors in the association, but most of them don't care.
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
There is tons of good information here from previous postings, if you search this site.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Use search feature top of page on right, Discussions Topics page.
Once the word gets around you can get aways with paying dues it becomes infective. There has to be caustion collecting and dunning, but, bottom line the owners are responsible. I am not sure reporting them to the credit bureau will result in you getting any money, but, as I said, it is a lawful bill.
GloriaM (North Carolina)
Posts: 829
Posted:
Timothy:

The NC Planned Community Act states you must give the Owner a 15 day Fianl Notice, however it conflicts with the NC Collection law which states HOA's must give a 30 day Final notice, therefore we follow the 30 day final notice. NC is one of those states have have many laws governing HOA's within the state.

Do you have an MC? If so they should be sending the proper notices to the Owner e.g., late notices, the the Final notice, then lien.

The HOA always has the option to utilize a collection agency, attorney and utilize the lien, foreclosure or judgment avenue.

With liens, the Association has the potential to collect all of its attorney’s fees. When seeking a judgment, the Association is limited to attorney’s fees that are equal to 15% of the amount due.

With a lien, if a homeowner wants to contest the Association's position, the Clerk will make a decision at the hearing as the Clerk's inquiry is limited to determining whether the debtor has an obligation to the Association and if there is a default (the Clerk does not even make a determination as to the amount of the default). If the owner is unhappy with the Clerk's decision, the owner has to go to the bother and expense of filing an appeal to the Superior Court Judge whose inquiry is supposed to be limited to the same issues as the Clerk).

With an action to obtain a judgment, the homeowner can raise any issue that he deems appropriate. Even if we argue that any such issues are irrelevant, the judge hearing the matter may decide that the debtor should have a chance to present his case to a jury for resolution. Instead of the four month period that it usually takes to finish a foreclosure, obtaining a judgment could take over a year. In addition, as is the case with any litigation, the Association could have to answer discovery and participate in depositions. A contested lawsuit is generally more costly than a foreclosure (if there is a trial, the costs would likely approximate $2,000 or more per day) and as stated above, the Association could expect to recover only a small portion of the fees that are incurred.

Before the Planned Community Act took effect in 1999, we had to file actions to obtain judgments and we know that process very well. It is generally much more burdensome and costly and less effective than the lien and foreclosure process. If the Association obtained a judgment against an owner and decided to execute on the judgment, the Association would have to issue a notice to the debtor of his right to claim exempt property and then send the Sheriff to execute on the property if it is not exempt and has much value above the mortgage balance. With the lien and foreclosure process, the debtor does not get an opportunity to claim any exemptions for the home and we do not have to deal with the Sheriff and his schedule and interest in the matter (or lack thereof).

I cannot emphasize enough that seeking a money judgment when the lien/foreclosure process is available would be a terrible mistake as the Association would end up with a more cumbersome, more unreliable or predictable situation that would cost it more money.

HaroldS (Arizona)
Posts: 906
Posted:
I'm not sure why you'd want to waste your volunteer time notifying credit bureaus, which would have absolutely no impact on collecting what's due. Best spend your time on legal means of collection. Harold
TimothyU (North Carolina)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Thank you all for the suggestions. (While I live in NC, I just can't seem to get this "y'all" concept down yet.:-))

I do appreciate the help and believe you have put me on the right path.

Tim
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
I agree with Harold, I Wouldn't waste time with this.

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