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AnnaD2
(Florida)

Posts:386

11/20/2007 4:58 AM
We went to our condo association attorney and he said that according to our rules and docs we (the board) are within our rights to limit parking. We are going to make a rule that there is to be a limit of no more than two cars per unit. Our attorney says we should make it a rule that anyone that has more than two cars must park the third (or fourth or fifth) vehicle OFF the property. So here comes the sticky part and I need your help regarding the wording of the "guest" parking rule. People (with two cars) are going to question whether they will be allowed to have overnight guests or visitors from out of town. It could get crazy because if we limit overnight guest parking to (say) only seven days, we'll get the usual jerks who will park an extra car for seven days, move it for one night, then bring it back for seven more days; etc. See where I'm going with this? So if any of you can assist us with the wording I'd really appreciate it.

JoeW1
(New York)

Posts:728

11/20/2007 5:30 AM
AnnaD2 - Amazing, just amazing. You state, "we'll get the usual jerks"??? How about not coming off from a defensive position and contemplating establishing realistic rules that will accommodate the reality of your current parking spot availability and people's lifestyles?? That means first starting with a discussion with unit owners openly. Remember the unit owners, or did you forget that you are one of them and everyone pay maintenances fees and signed into a community with pre-existing cc&rs?? Did you already try that route and get pushback from the unit owners hence the, "Let's see how the attorney can interpret our limited powers and duties so we draft a rule that may further piss off the unit owners that won't comply anyway so we can fine them and create more dysfunction"?? See where I'm going with that? First off, are your roadways dedicated for public use or are they private? If public use than you may have limitations. If private you still have to consider emergency vehicle access. I suggest that the Board members as a team go out and perform a site analysis. Analyze the way owners are currently using the parking spots at the various times during the day, evening, and early morning especially during the holidays and when it snows. Diagram the usage and patterns and see if there is a way you can develop a rule that will make things safer, more accommodating to improve the lifestyle and general welfare of the residents. Until that is done you are going down a slippery slope led by an attorney, and IMHO not fit to be on the Board or committee. Sorry, but that's MHO.

AnnaD2
(Florida)

Posts:386

11/20/2007 5:41 AM
Sorry Joe, I guess I should been been more specific about this...I didn't think I had to go into so much detail in the beginning. We are doing this IN RESPONSE to the unit owners. We only have 26 visitor spaces for 46 units (total of 72 spaces.) Some people have decided to have six or seven cars parked on the property. So people with two cars come home and have NO place to park. We did this because we're being responible to EVERYONE who lives here, in trying to alliviate the parking situation. The owners came to us for help with this situation; which is why we went to our attorney. People who DO pay their maintenance fees have a right to have a place to park when they're not abusing the situation. As far as emergency vehicles go; we're more than compliant to ensuring they have acces to our "street"...it's ONE driveway with parking on both sides....one way in and one way out. I didn't know this was going to turn into such a hostile topic, and have never gotten such a response, as yours, from the good posters on HOA talk. By the way...we don't have snow in Florida.

MikeS1

Posts:0

11/20/2007 6:00 AM
Anna I'll try to give you some useful advice here if I can. The parking rules need to be simple to understand, simple to administrate, and simple to enforce. I've give you a clause that approximates what you're looking for, but I will tell you that this is very difficult to monitor. How do you really prove who is a resident? and who is a guest? You may want to just go to a permit system, where you give everyone two Mirror/Hang tags and let either your property manager or an impound company monitor your parking. With this clause below, you will probably still have the residents who try to pass themselves off as a guest. "Visitor / Visitor vehicles: A visitor and/or visitor vehicle in Community X is an individual (and his/her vehicle, whether owned, borrowed or merely operated) who does not own, rent, or otherwise reside within Community X, and who visits no more frequently than three (3) separate occasions per calendar week (Sun-Sat). Visitor permit parking is limited to 3 consecutive calendar days in any of the visitor space(s) within the community unless the board grants written permission. The definition of a “calendar day” is a period of 4 or more hours within a 24-hour period ending at midnight”.

JoeW1
(New York)

Posts:728

11/20/2007 6:03 AM
AnnaD2 - As you admit you did not post the specifics, so you reap a response that you sew. Now that you have elaborated and insulted me by suggesting I'm not a "good" poster I chuckle. My position is not from a hostile standpoint rather one of professional experience regarding site analysis of environments and over 10 years living in HOA/COA communities. It seems the current situation with owner parking is based upon first come first serve. That is the most fair method which removes the Board from the situation and lets the owners fend for themselves given the design of the community and parking spots available. And you posted the most interesting detail of all, "The owners came to us for help with this situation; which is why we went to our attorney.". So I ask, how many owners came to you? How can people be technically "abusing" a situation when there are no rules established in the first place?? You do need to develop a rule, there is no doubt. However, you need to develop a rule that is realistic and legal. Bottom line there are a limited # of visitor parking spots which were intended for the..... sole use of visitors?? Off the cuff, I conceive an idea to assign each unit 1 visitor spot, draw a yearly lottery for the remaining 20, number each spot and give each owner a corresponding tag. End of story.

MikeS1

Posts:0

11/20/2007 6:21 AM
Anna - I've also seen communities like yours use permit stickers (placed in the quarter glass or right rear lower corner of the back glass) where they have required the owner/residents to register your cars, use a fixed sticker permit for residents and a mirror hang tag for guests. You could issue one sticker for each residence and one Visitor hang tag for each residence. Yes, you're going to get some residents that try to pass themselves off as guests, but that only works for a short time. If you see abuses, you just send them a letter that details that their numbered permits will be revoked if the abuses continue. Sorry that I don't believe that that first come first serve garbage. Since our community was developed, June and Ward Cleaver have moved on or died; and the density within the community has escalated exponentially. ... And so have the total number of cars that are parked in the community. Before we implement some control, the plan grossly favored the folks that get home early during the day. Those folks (some of whom had up to 5 cars) were loving life, since they could always get a space. Fair to all?? I think not. We all pay HOA fees for the use of the common areas, so why shouldn't we all get an equal share or equal access to those resources. You can usually get an impound/recovery company to provide the permits for free and let them monitor your parking areas. Good luck. Hope that you find a plan that is fair to all.

SteveC4
(Florida)

Posts:66

11/20/2007 8:53 AM
Hello: We have the same situation here in florida...theres 28 units here and each home owner is assigned to one parking spot...but in the declaration its states that each unit should be allow only two cars per unit....we have one home owner...that has three cars and parks in everyones parking space...and wont park in the visitor section....and he does it on spite.

DonnaS
(Tennessee)

Posts:2944

11/20/2007 9:43 AM
Anna, Parking too many cars actually is easier to control than you think. First of all- -LIMIT EACH UNIT TO 2 CARS IN ASSIGNED SPACES. PROVIDE THOSE CARS WITH A WINDSHIELD OR SIDE WINDOW STICKER. ANY CARS OVER THE ALOTTED 2 HAVE TO BE PARKED IN A DESIGNATED OVERFLOW AREA. (It will be up to the Board to find that area. Maybe behind a clubhouse or rec parking area.) Because you do not have driveways, your security or property manager can easily check on parking lots daily. It should not take more than 10 minutes. Next--- ANY AND ALL OVERNIGHT PARKERS WHO WILL BE PARKING OTHER THAN THE 2 ALOTTED WITH WINDOW STICKERS, MUST INFORM THE OFFICE AND GET A PAPER TO DISPLAY ON THE DASHBOARD, HOW MANY DAYS THEY WILL BE THERE. SET A TIME LIMIT OF A WEEK OR TWO. THESE WILL BE THE GUEST PARKING SPACES.ANYONE ELSE WILL BE IN VIOLATION AND THEN IT IS UP TO YOUR BOARD TO ENFORCE THIS. I can hear the screaming all the way to my house but it does not matter. Some people do not know how to share and consider others and those will be the ones making the most noise.. ( Anna, help me here. Are you not a 55+ community?)

JoeW1
(New York)

Posts:728

11/20/2007 1:55 PM
Posted By MikeS1 on 11/20/2007 6:21 AM Anna - I've also seen communities like yours use permit stickers (placed in the quarter glass or right rear lower corner of the back glass) where they have required the owner/residents to register your cars, use a fixed sticker permit for residents and a mirror hang tag for guests. You could issue one sticker for each residence and one Visitor hang tag for each residence. Yes, you're going to get some residents that try to pass themselves off as guests, but that only works for a short time. If you see abuses, you just send them a letter that details that their numbered permits will be revoked if the abuses continue. Sorry that I don't believe that that first come first serve garbage. Since our community was developed, June and Ward Cleaver have moved on or died; and the density within the community has escalated exponentially. ... And so have the total number of cars that are parked in the community. Before we implement some control, the plan grossly favored the folks that get home early during the day. Those folks (some of whom had up to 5 cars) were loving life, since they could always get a space. Fair to all?? I think not. We all pay HOA fees for the use of the common areas, so why shouldn't we all get an equal share or equal access to those resources. You can usually get an impound/recovery company to provide the permits for free and let them monitor your parking areas. Good luck. Hope that you find a plan that is fair to all. MikeS1 - The point I was making about the first come first serve "garbage" as you call it, is that the HOA should try to let people manage themselves, meaning not micromanage. Yes, develop a plan that levels the playing field but anything different is favoring someone over someone else.

AnnaD2
(Florida)

Posts:386

11/20/2007 2:53 PM
Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. We are not a 55+ community. A lot of people do NOT know how to share and they have the "me first", "too bad about everyone else" attitude. Our Board DOES care about everyone but we can't let the bullies run all over everyone else. At some point we're going to have to try to figure out other places to allow parking. But we're only two buildings and we have a "moat" surrounding the entire property. (Drainage for the watershed.) Yes, when we were a rental property (eight years ago) we were an adult-only community so we had a lot of seniors with only one car and a lot of them are now "gone" for various reasons. But now we have ALL ages and our parking does not support Mom, Dad and the two teenage kids all having cars. I'm going to take a lot of your ideas to the board and see how they feel about what you've said. Thanks again!

Jadedone4
(Virginia)

Posts:495

11/20/2007 5:07 PM
Unfortunately HOA are folks managing themselves... If there were no abuse, there would be no need for parking guidelines... Unit with "X" number of spaces (garage or driveway) is provide same number of decals to be made visible by owner. Same unit is provide one guest pass for 24/48/72 hour usage (additional passes can be purchased at costs from HOA). Hire towing company, abusers of parking (i.e. those folks who have more vehicles then allotated spaces) are towed or they find alternate parking. First come, first serve is unfair to everyone if, if there lacks a method to enforce that the abusers are addressed. Otherwise what stops "musical parking spaces..?"

AnnaD2
(Florida)

Posts:386

11/20/2007 6:15 PM
Jadedone4--I was waiting for your "words of wisdom". YOU seem to always put everything in a "nutshell" for all those who want to "disect" and "micromanage" all the problems that need attention NOW. We do have a towing company hired. As you say---"musical parking spaces" happens here all the time. First come, first serve IS unfair. We can't shirk from the people who think that THEIR needs are meant to be met first and foremost.

Jadedone4
(Virginia)

Posts:495

11/21/2007 6:27 AM
AnnaD2 appreciate the compliment, but my "wisdom" cames from getting too close to the "HOA stove" and having Roger, Gloria, Brad, Robert and others on here correct me... My community is undergoing a parking resolution with final draft due at next meeting and the actual enforcement starting 2008. One of the challenges that I saw was that there was a push for a "BETE" (be everything to everyone) solution. I have said it before HOA's cannot effectively "legislate" behavior or etiquitte. HOA's can however legislate fair and balance rules which everyone is required to follow - not a cure all, but shows that everyone is being treated fairly and the same. "Musical parking spaces" can be remedied with a STRONG and HONEST relationship with the towing company. Most if not all tow "contracts" are generally agreements which allow a particular company to patrol, enforce and tow in an HOA's domain. There usually is NOT a fee paid by the HOA for the services as the tow company is "paid" based on towing. The kicker there is that I would require the tow company to provide the "burden of proof" that a tow was a good tow. This can be achieved with digital photos (if spaces are labeled/marked/numbered, etc). You can establish that the vehicle is just being moved from one space to another, etc. Most digital cameras are time and date stamped - so that is proof enough. THE KEY TO THIS SOLUTION IS A GOOD AND HONEST RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOW COMPANY! Now I will readily admit that may be a difficult task to achieve and the agreement/contract would (IMHO) need to be crafted so that the HOA has strong discretion as a Board to rule a tow bad/good and the company must acquience. There must be a healthy balance... guy who says it was a bad tow, after third time being towed for same infraction... hmmmmm??? Tow company tows and doesn't provide due diligence (i.e. digital photo of infraction) = bad tow.

JoeW1
(New York)

Posts:728

11/21/2007 7:58 AM
AnnaD2 - Developing a parking rule is not in doubt. But you're coming from a defensive position using words like "bullies", and "we'll get the usual jerks". If there is no rule than you can't fault the owners for using the spots available. What else are they supposed to do? Once you establish a well-developed/realistic rule than make the judgments.

MikeS1

Posts:0

11/21/2007 4:50 PM
Joe - Do you have anything tangible that you'd like to contribute?

JoeW1
(New York)

Posts:728

11/22/2007 10:04 AM
MikeS1 - You've decided to be controversial by goating me, unprofessional behavior typical of many posters. Advise comes in many forms and many posts evidence what seems to be bias behavior that favors a few, this post is no exception. When I see that I point it out because I believe that is the underlying problem in HOA's accross the nation. A rule that has teeth is one that is well developed. Hence my suggestion to study the existing use patterns of parking. If some would rather not take that route and develop a plan for a use pattern situation that is causing a problem then they seek less tangible contributions.

MikeS1

Posts:0

11/22/2007 5:31 PM
Whatever..

GlenL
(Ohio)

Posts:1458

11/22/2007 9:04 PM
JoeW1, you are priceless and your umbrage for being called for bad behavior gave me a good laugh when I needed it most. The OP started off asking for language for a rule to limit the number of cars parked on the property because they are having a problem but you're upset because they want to do something to clean the problem up and don't have a rule. (Catch 22 anyone) You're also upset about Anna using the phase "usual jerks" and implying that you are not a good poster simply because you assumed her Board is power mad and out to p**s people off and fine them and more importantly that she is not fit to be on the Board (your words), get real.

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2494

11/23/2007 5:48 AM
To all, I bet you all agree you can't put tem pounds of crap into a five pound bag. Just as you can't put 40 cars into 35 parking spaces. 5 cars have to be parked somewhere else. Where? Maybe a problem for the Board, maybe not. I think if there is nothing in your covenants that specifies who parks where, and I bet at one time there was, in a 55 comunity, it becomes either a problem in ammending the original parking plans, which should be on file or in court house. This provision probable runs with the land and is still valid unless you have record of official changes. If confusions is ruling the day and you can't allot parking spaces equally, and you can allow them on an apportioned bases, and parking spaces are limited common areas, if designated and common if not, it would make sense those units paying more for the upkeep should be assigned a larger portion of the common areas. When and if this don't work, use decals with a number that coincides with the assigned unit.. If this creates hostility, have a lottery. You can also assign spaces on a monthly or something bases for tenant of the month, or any other incenttive. Numbered parking spaces, numbered decals, enforcement are the best you can do. Our documents calls for 1 space/unit. Problem with that is some spaces have room for two cars, some only one. These spaces convey with property, all other spaces are assigned as quest parkinjg. That is not without it's problems and at least yearly we have to go through trying to do it better when someone starts screeching. It seems to be a prevasive occurance, it goes along with people accepting the rules then, bang, it is like they just discovered gold and want there share so a new study starts and it goes along until the next crises. We seem to do the best we can, and that seems to work........for a while. My advice.........good luck!

JoeW1
(New York)

Posts:728

11/23/2007 6:12 AM
GlenL - Your post proves my point. Additionally you have I written I used words Anna is not fit to be on the Board. Incorrect and irresponsible. I never called her irresponsible. I wrote, "Diagram the usage and patterns and see if there is a way you can develop a rule that will make things safer, more accommodating to improve the lifestyle and general welfare of the residents. Until that is done you are going down a slippery slope led by an attorney, and IMHO not fit to be on the Board or committee. Sorry, but that's MHO." I never called Anna irresponsible. In addition to pointing out Anna's phrases about owners that I consider to be offensive "usual jerks", etc. I looked beyond that to offer advice. I offerred - "assign each unit 1 visitor spot, draw a yearly lottery for the remaining 20, number each spot and give each owner a corresponding tag.", "the Board members as a team go out and perform a site analysis. Analyze the way owners are currently using the parking spots at the various times during the day, evening, and early morning especially during the holidays and when it snows." Didn't remember to go back and look if Anna was in an area that gets snow, my bad.

JohnM3
(Florida)

Posts:208

11/23/2007 8:20 AM
To AnnaD2. I understand your frustration. We have a very similar situation we are a starter community of 305 homes in South Florida Ft Lauderdale area. Our city fathers allowed the developer to not build any guest parking lots any where in the entire community. So we got the same train wreck typical of what happens in Florida. So we have given every homeowner blanket permission to widen there driveways to 3 cars wide . The problem then got compounded by the fact the city building dept is too lazy to enforce city building codes. But they are johnny on the spot over recyclable bins left in front yards the day after pick-up. So many of the homeowners to get more sq feet inside there houses they have closed up their garages. To make additional bedrooms with additional bedrooms come additional cars and the beat goes on and gets worse. Then we went to 2 tires on the swale two tires in the street. Then members got worse now its park everywhere on the sidewalks. We get 4-6 Police cars thru the community every 8 hours. None I repeat none of them stop get out of there cars and write a citation. I have had multitudes of meetings with the Police Dept and have heard in 19 years more excuses for not doing there jobs then you can imagine.

JohnM3
(Florida)

Posts:208

11/23/2007 8:35 AM
So we started out with a grand plan to build more parking lots. We started with a 24 slot parking lot, golf cart garage, and Clubhouse. Thanks to the superb fools in City Hall that went 100,000 dollars ovewr budget. They modified every single plan possible. They inspected there bottoms off. We finally got a CO on the entire project. We ended up borrowing money to finish the lot and clubhouse. Our semi intelligent GC put both items together as a entire project instead of keeping them simple. The winning GC put both projects together making it impossible to get a co but eventually we got it. Now the rest of the 6 Parking Lots are on hold for 2-3 years due to costs that are out of this world. The city has made us add 3 foot of crushed stone 1/4 inch in diameter for every parking stall in the new lots. The total price is over 600,000 dollars. We have recently went to roving security and it is there job to check on illegal parkers we have hired a "Shark Attorney " and he will take folks to court and protect our streets we hope. Just added $35,000 bucks to the budget to use for Code Enforcement cause the state took away in Florida all of our powers of enforcement. It has to be in your CCRs in Florida exactly on color and building shape to enforce. The city is supposed to enforce the traffic and they refuse to get involved!!!!!!! Welcome to HOA's in Florida. The result is this be darn carefull before you decide to go the route of new parking lots and see if you can get some matching funds from your representative in congress. It might work tell him/her to add it to some bill that is popular as a earmark. Mutha has been doing it for Johnstown Penna for over 10 years. Good luck!

RonaldW
(South Carolina)

Posts:900

11/24/2007 7:25 AM
Posted By JoeW1 on 11/20/2007 5:30 AM AnnaD2 - Amazing, just amazing. You state, "we'll get the usual jerks"??? How about not coming off from a defensive position and contemplating establishing realistic rules that will accommodate the reality of your current parking spot availability and people's lifestyles?? That means first starting with a discussion with unit owners openly. Remember the unit owners, or did you forget that you are one of them and everyone pay maintenances fees and signed into a community with pre-existing cc&rs?? Did you already try that route and get pushback from the unit owners hence the, "Let's see how the attorney can interpret our limited powers and duties so we draft a rule that may further piss off the unit owners that won't comply anyway so we can fine them and create more dysfunction"?? See where I'm going with that? ............... Joe, let me guess - you are not an HOA board member and have never been one. You have also never had extensive dealings with the public. Perhaps the OP should not have used the term "jerks", but experience tells those of us who have been in a position of trying to enforce standards or "rules" that there will be a certain group who do not feel that these rules apply to them and will try to circumvent them in whatever way possible. Blame it on their upbringing, I guess. Limited numbered parking decals for the residents and numbered guest passes for guests seems like the best solution and if there's a management office, registering the guests is a good idea. The guest passes should be linked to the residents so it's possible to determine whose "guest" is using the pass. Whatever the final policy, it should be carefully worded and then board members should try to find any loopholes before the policy is implemented.

Ron SC

RonaldW
(South Carolina)

Posts:900

11/24/2007 7:30 AM
Posted By SteveC4 on 11/20/2007 8:53 AM Hello: We have the same situation here in florida...theres 28 units here and each home owner is assigned to one parking spot...but in the declaration its states that each unit should be allow only two cars per unit....we have one home owner...that has three cars and parks in everyones parking space...and wont park in the visitor section....and he does it on spite. He wouldn't park in my space more than once. Sometimes you must confront a bully.

Ron SC

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2494

11/24/2007 7:48 AM
Ron, You ate too much turkey and got up on the wrong side of the bed. Cut us a little slack and don't be guilty of what you are accusing Joe of doing. Joe is a deep thinker, and writes this way. There will be a good message in what he says normally, unless he disagrees with me. But your conclusion that because what he said is because he has never been on a board is way out in left field. You are damning 99.5% of the owners and exaulting the other 0,5 % to some heavenly devine throne. Just not true.

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2494

11/24/2007 7:57 AM
Ron, The rest of your post makes good sense and many have agreed with this kind of solution. I may not work in some situations but it works (after a fashion) in ours. Sometime, some folks, don't pay attention and don't want to pay attention.

JoeW1
(New York)

Posts:728

11/24/2007 9:33 AM
RonaldW - You guessed 100% wrong on all counts. Are you suggesting only HOA Board members think a certain way? Currently in Anna's HOA I do not believe there are parking rules. So linger on that possibility for a moment. No rules, human nature prevails. Therefore, it remains to be seen the intention of those that use more than one space. My point is I believe Anna is coming off harsh in characterizing owners as "usual jerks" and phrases such as that. If you or anyone takes issue with my dislike and distaste of pejorative descriptions of owners, I'm none the worse for the wear. If there are 26 visitor spaces and 46 owner spaces, there are 72 spaces. I envision a plant where each owner gets one of the 72 spaces and a yearly ottery should be drawn for the rest after subtracting any spaces that must designated by law for the handicapped, or special needs. However, I stick to my guns that a use pattern site analysis may benefit and evidence something that could assist in the realistic implementation of a parking plan.

RonaldW
(South Carolina)

Posts:900

11/24/2007 11:03 AM
Posted By AnnaD2 on 11/20/2007 5:41 AM ................. I didn't know this was going to turn into such a hostile topic, and have never gotten such a response, as yours, from the good posters on HOA talk. By the way...we don't have snow in Florida. This site is not very well policed and anyone can join and say what they want. A lot of folks posting here are disgruntled homeowners who failed to read the CC&Rs before they purchased their properties or just have a problem following rules and dealing with authority. Others just seem to enjoy arguing with folks for no good reason. It's difficult at times to wade through all the BS to get the help you need. Many times I just decide that it's not worth the hassle and just go figure it out for myself. It would be much better if we could have a forum for board members and HOA professionals only.

Ron SC

RonaldW
(South Carolina)

Posts:900

11/24/2007 11:16 AM
Posted By JoeW1 on 11/23/2007 6:12 AM GlenL - ............. Until that is done you are going down a slippery slope led by an attorney, ........... They asked the attorney for help. The attorney is not leading them, just advising on what powers the BOD has in this situation. This is a far better plan that just "making a rule" and then having a member sue the association because they did not actually have the power to make the rule. Joe, I believe most of us are in touch with the feelings of the membership, as you pointed out somewhere, we are members ourselves. And we were elected by the other members. We have to remember though, that not all members feel the same way about issues and often, those in the minority will not get their way. The OP used the term "jerks" and you took exception to the term. We have a member who has been dumping his refuse on our HOA greenspace across the street from his property so he wouldn't get a violation letter for putting it out for collection on the wrong day. I caught him in the act of doing this recently and confronted him. He didn't seem to think it was a problem and was pretty nasty about it. Wouldn't you consider this person to be a "jerk"??

Ron SC

BeverlyM2
(Virginia)

Posts:2

11/24/2007 12:19 PM
Alas, even the best-intentioned homeowner rarely reviews the CCRs before signing on the dotted line. Therefore, we have parking problems in almost all HOA communities. In ours, there is a huge imbalance as to where the visitor spaces are located. One section has tons of parking for "visitors" that they all use for extra resident vehicles (we, too, have overcrowding issues due to multiple families occupying single townhomes). Other sections have 1 spot for 18 homes, and one of the garage units (1/2 of the homes in this section) rotates their extra cars there. Hmm. This has been a hot item for years. We were able to secure some on-street parking, but had a big fight with the county to get that. Then there was ill-conceived parking placed that created visual problems at several intersections. That's a lawsuit brewing. The BoD has not opted to assign stickers or visitor tags, although that has been discussed. It has been left to a first-come system (sigh). Add to this the fact that the contracted towing company is -- spontaneously and without warning -- towing cars from homeowners' assigned parking spaces for county sticker expirations (not their job, but the sheriff's job to provide warnings before allowing towing), and uou can imagine that this community is not experiencing its Zen. The incoming BoD will be addressingthese among other significant problems in the upcoming year. So, we share your pain and have not had any epiphanies...but are still searching for answers. We've even gone to the county housing and zoning leadership for ideas to solve the overcrowding issue. Yes, there will be differing opinions and frustrations ill-expressed, but all sincere efforts to provide thoughtful POSSIBLE solutions are to be welcomed. Please don't be hostile. Pray for us!

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