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PenyW
(Pennsylvania)

Posts:36

11/20/2007 12:55 PM
RobertT, there are lots of folks who have really good advise to offer here. I can tell you of my experience in handling an HOA board that had lost control. Our community became outraged at a special assessment that was in direct violation of our Declaration. To get people moving we had to "strike while the iron was hot". A letter was sent out to all HOA members detailing what parts of the documents were being violated. We asked that anyone who wished to sign petitions asking for a special meeting and the impeachment of the board meet at the public library on a given date. We had over half of our members show up. Our documents required 10% of the members to ask for a special meeting. We had that many and then some. The BOD saw that they were in way over their heads and resigned. We had people ready to step up and fill those board positions. Once the old board was taken care of we got to work on the management company, over-priced contracts, and delinquencies. It's going to take work and time and money on your part. We sent out letters using our own funds for postage, etc. You also need to learn what's in your documents so that you can recite them backwards and forwards. And you need to get people to come together to help. When we got our neighbors together people were shocked to find out that they weren't alone in their anger and frustration. People who had never even met each other before starting having conversations. What could have been a very bad event for our community became a positive experience. People learned that they could make a difference. I should also warn you that former board members can be a vindictive lot. You have to make sure you act rationally and calmly at all times. I wish you and your neighbors all the best. We did it, and you can, too.

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2148

11/20/2007 2:28 PM
PenyW, A nice post and an excellent example of what can be done. Peny said it but I wish she had said it louder. This action takes TIME, not just to get from nothing to control but BEYOND. It does also take spending a little of your hard earved cash running around tracking down things in the court house and office supplies. I would suggest the the new group immediately update their owners addresses and e-mail lists. I feel if the board can use them for communication, every owner should also be able to use them for HOA business. Someone will violate the trust probably, but we are all handling thousands of spam a year and never give it a thought to how they get your name. That fact is not a shield to hide behind by suspect boards.

RobertT
(Colorado)

Posts:40

11/22/2007 9:09 AM
Dear Folks, Thank you so much for your input into our struggle. I know it is in the hearts of this community to make change. The current board has been in office too long and has lost their focus and is putting the burden on the community for their mistakes. They will bring in almost twice as much as last year in dues totaling over 1 Million dollars and we as a community will really not see a dime of that since it has already been ear marked for Insurance and Dead Beats (75) who are not paying their dues. I would really like to see us try to "CUT COSTs" in many areas. The clubhouse phone should not cost $800 dollars per year and if we have spent $6,000 dollars last year on paint then where did they use it? Two Maintenance men that shadow themselves and never finish anything do not amount to much. Why do they fix stuff and never paint it? Why do they tear down the garbage dump but leave it unfinished for weeks on end? Why don’t they fix the signs, paint the hydrants, fix the falling down garages and paint something? You know this place would look great with a little paint! But of course that is beyond them they would rather build stuff without permits. They would rather make it appear that they are really doing things…What they are we don’t know…. A little "Elbow Grease" in such things as the Condo Building front doors and garages along with painting the parking lot lines would bring a little life into the community. Look at building 130 the owners did it themselves and it looks great. They Don’t Paint and they don’t pick up trash or sweep anything then what do they do? Why are they always hiding inside somewhere? Why are they always hanging together like a two peas in a pod, why can’t one guy be on one side of the complex and the other doing something different? The current board would rather let this community fall apart from "NO Beautification" such as painting and cleaning things up. They would rather tear it down instead of fixing, painting, shining, trimming and putting in a little "Elbow Grease" into making this community look nicer. Why are we paying a pool company $8,000 dollars for pool Maintenance and why are we paying two maintenance people over $120,000 dollars a year and a janitor $23,000 dollars a year? Why does the whole budget get used every year? We never have anything left..... Is someone getting kick backs? That's $143,000 dollars in Maintenance Personnel$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ What do they really do???????I have not seen any painting in this community in over 7 years. Why are we paying over 43% Administration and Maintenance costs that will go over 50% these years with the Emergency assessment? We don’t need a gold standard management company that would rather put the burden on the community in the form of new Assessments. We need a reasonable standard that looks at cutting cost and uses simple common sense to make decisions which will make this community great. We have forgotten the simple things like keeping the community looking nice. We have all let it fall apart and now we must all come together to bring it back. We remember the days when it was so nice and we have lost that due to neglect. WE the People Will Come Together to Help Ourselves, Let’s do it now!

BarbaraM7
(Virginia)

Posts:86

11/23/2007 1:00 PM
RobertT, Is this a Maintenance Assessment which covers annual assessments, or a Special Assessment for Capital Improvements? What is your vote ratio, like is it two-thirds of the HOA members and did they hold a meeting of the community and get a quorum, through attendance or proxies for this Emergency Assessment? Do you have a maximum that the Board can not exceed? What do your Covenents, Conditions, & Regulations state? What if someone pays a portion of their dues, over a period of time, can they still have liens placed on their property? Why are people that are paying their dues being harassed about people that aren't paying their dues? Are your dues on a monthly, quarterly or yearly basis? Is this a condition of people living within their means or over them? Our BOD Tresurer duties include preparing an annual budget so we know where we stand financally at the annual meeting. Our biggest problem with all of the above is getting people to attend and get involved in something that is in their best interest to know about, usually they don't care unless it pertains directly to them. And by the way, WOW, your dues are high conpared to ours.

BarbaraM7
(Virginia)

Posts:86

11/23/2007 1:18 PM
PenyW, You say you sent letters, but what if we don't know the names of the people that live at that address? Can we put notices in the doors of the community about an action the Board is considering that effects the whole community concerning violations?

RobertT
(Colorado)

Posts:40

11/23/2007 8:19 PM
Is this a Maintenance Assessment which covers annual assessments or a Special Assessment for Capital Improvements? "Barb-This is an Emergency Assessment because the current board will not consider cutting cost and are now having us pay for Dead Beats who don’t pay their bills and new higher insurance premiums due to Aluminum Wiring in the townhomes at around $180,000 dollars per year with premiums at $86,000." What is your vote ratio, like is it two-thirds of the HOA members and did they hold a meeting of the community and get a quorum, through attendance or proxies for this Emergency Assessment? Barb, "You might want to read this over but the community would need 51% or 151 people to overthrow the current board which is almost impossible considering the foreclosures, rental rate at 50% and the 75 person dead beats. They just imposed the assessment approved by the board and directed by the Management Company. No Proxies No prior communication was done at the previous meeting- "BUCK UP" is what the Vice President said...." Do you have a maximum that the Board cannot exceed? Barb, "The declaration says it should not be Extra ordinary but this is out of control. The management company runs the board and dictates to them on how things should be even though they will tell you otherwise. It is the president who is signing the checks" What do your Covenants, Conditions, & Regulations state? "I can send them to you but they are from 1973 and they need serious revisions to meet the Current requirements" What if someone pays a portion of their dues, over a period of time, can they still have liens placed on their property? "Yes unless they set something up with the management company" Why are people that are paying their dues being harassed about people that aren't paying their dues? "Because we are morons and don’t know any better" Are your dues on a monthly, quarterly or yearly basis? "Monthly I pay $164 for a one bedroom and now pay $284 with this emergency 5 month assessment." Is this a condition of people living within their means or over them? "Yes...Over them in most cases with the exception of the President, Vice President and board members who have plenty of money. Many people will not pay and go into foreclosure and this is having the opposite affect on the community" Our BOD Treasurer duties include preparing an annual budget so we know where we stand financially at the annual meeting. "Our board lets the Mananagment Company do the entire budget it appears" Our biggest problem with all of the above is getting people to attend and get involved in something that is in their best interest to know about, usually they don't care unless it pertains directly to them. "When the money is coming out of the pockets of some of the poorest people in the community and we pay some of the highest dues of any complex in Colorado I would say someone "must listen" and help us. The community cannot help them themselves so we will continue being taken advantage of till we consider cutting costs and fixing this mess. And by the way, WOW, your dues are high compared to ours. “Yes we pay for our stupidity"

BarbaraM7
(Virginia)

Posts:86

11/24/2007 11:36 AM
RobertT, I hope you didn't think I was saying your were stupid in any shape or form. Your community truly has a mess on its hands, and I feel empathy for you all.

RobertT
(Colorado)

Posts:40

11/24/2007 12:29 PM
Barbara, Baby steps will make us stronger as we somehow bring the community together to make a difference. You have been very helpful and I hope others will contribute to this post making us see the light. We as community should be interested in truth and justice. We as a community should stand strong against the Bully and not be afraid to speak up for that is what has made America proud and great as a country. We the people must come together and make change for a better tommorrow. We know there is something seriously wrong and we need to make change as change will not happen without us! Thanks, Highline Fellows

BarbaraM7
(Virginia)

Posts:86

11/24/2007 7:18 PM
RobertT, This management company seems to have a lot of power over your Board. Has your HOA been audited? Your money is going somewhere, and hopefully the MC's is only getting it's fee, and nothing else. Everyone in your HOA should be able to inspect the books and records, and a third-party CPA might be able to give you a better idea of why this Emergency Special Assessment is needed.

RobertT
(Colorado)

Posts:40

11/24/2007 7:45 PM
Barbara, You are getting the big picture now. We need to see the books, many people want see them but they are unwilling to disclose the valued information. Our petition box was ripped down ordered by the current president who has ruled for 8 years. We have had a petition but the community has not signed enough to make the 152 person roster to make change a.....reality A Task force of Good People will make it better when we start to get the community around us and sign our petition. We are a Strong community but not convinced..... until its hits our Wallet!!! Any Moron........ can tell we have legal issues which could be a Gold Mine to the right representative support. How could this current board let this community fall apart? We are being controlled by a Un caring source of support that the community has become accustomed to. We do not know what to do or how to defend ourselves from the Bully. We need Help! Highline Meadow Fellows Thanks High Line Fellows

GlenL
(Ohio)

Posts:1373

11/24/2007 9:35 PM
RobertT if it's as you say and 50% of the community is rental property; those are precisely the people you need to get on your side. Go to the County and find out where the tax bills are sent, information may also be on the Counties web site. Contact them and get their proxy and along with the ones that live there and act. You might also try to get Colorado to enact a law similar to the one we have in Ohio for Condo communities that require the majority of the homeowners to vote EVERY YEAR on whether or not the BOD is allowed to levy special assessments. This was done a couple of years ago because we had so many first time buyers with no/low down payments moving in and getting hit with massive SA's that they couldn't pay which caused them to loose everything.

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2148

11/25/2007 5:21 AM
Glen, You are going to have to straighten me out on this one. "Quote" RobertT if it's as you say and 50% of the community is rental property; those are precisely the people you need to get on your side. Go to the County and find out where the tax bills are sent, information may also be on the Counties web site. Contact them and get their proxy and along with the ones that live there and act. You might also try to get Colorado to enact a law similar to the one we have in Ohio for Condo communities that require the majority of the homeowners to vote EVERY YEAR on whether or not the BOD is allowed to levy special assessments. This was done a couple of years ago because we had so many first time buyers with no/low down payments moving in and getting hit with massive SA's that they couldn't pay which caused them to loose everything. ******************************************** I suppose you could research county web site for addresses to find names. Why not go to the association and get names. You are entitled to this information, lots of plaaces have an association phone book. I agree you need to get support but it is best to show support to get support. The group should compose a mission statement and use e-mail or web site or letters to get the word out. They need to make some noise in front of the Board at an official meeting. They first need a paper trail, not some rant or personal agenda but a good solid thought out agenda and present it to the Board and get it included in the minutes. In Ohio your statement above presents some questions. Our documents require a 2/3rd vote for SA. Any SA anytime. What would be gained by requiring 51% ? The reason for the sub prime market debacle is not the fault of special assessments. I will grant you that there should be stricter provisions for the Board to access prospective buyers, but that is a hard sell. Even I wouldn't blame the Board for this, besides, they do plenty of stuff that they should be blamed for. If you have a lot of foreclosures the members in effect stand to lose a bunch of money. The board should have a solid plan on how they can soften the blow, such as liens on property done is such a way you get the money owed. You are also going to have to make up this special assessment money that will probably not get paid. In fact if the folks foreclosing find themselve upside down in their mortgage, you are like to lose all that is owned. It is not a pretty picture. You want to blame soneone, try: Real Estate folks, banks, mortgage companies, brokers, Fannie mae and fannie mac, FHA, shaky businesses on the internet, the government for allowing it to happen, local politics and state politics, and the list goes on. The Board is charged with running a corporation, hold them to that. One of the ironies is Places like FHA or others have some mysterious limit that they use that requires them to stop issuing Mortgages at a particular development. I have yet to find a definitive answer as to what that # is from FHA. So they may finance all the loans up to this amount, and then stop because there are too many rental units which has a detrimental effect on the development. In other words a risky loan, all the while the rental ratios go up and puts at risk all the previous FHA backed loans.

RobertT
(Colorado)

Posts:40

11/25/2007 2:16 PM
Dear Robert and Glen, We all appreciate your input and will create a "Mission Statement". We already have a web site in which the community can sign the petition allowing a Audit of the management company and a new election replacing the current Board that has been in for 8 Years. Getting the offsite owners for the renters is very important and we are working on that. We have already been contacted by some of them and have gotten some support. We are creating a Core team of concerned citizens who are focused and serious about the current situation. We want to know where our money is going and why the current Board has not considered cutting costs but increasing them putting the burden on the community. We went from $551,000 Budget last year to Over a Million this year without one thin dime being used for capitol improvements. The current Board of Directors would rather throw money at the problem instead of fixing it. We have "Lloyds of London" Insurance premiums that exceed 80K and cost around 180K a year because the aluminum wiring in the town homes is a fire risk. It is the owners responsibility to fix it although it is the communities responsibility to pay for the insurance for it at triple the cost of repair. There has not been any scheduling to get it fixed and as a result we will have to pay the highest insurance costs of any community. Its a bad story that needs to be told. During the last fire in building 50 the fire department did not have enough water from our Hydrants because someone turned off one of the valves a few years ago. Now we all will have to have meters installed on all our homes and pay to have the valve turned back on. We almost had the maintenance man arrested on felony charges because he opened one of the fire Hydrants and started to fill the pond with the water from them. Our garages have not been painted which has caused them to fall apart to the point of needing replacement. Although we went over budget on paint last year to $5,700 dollars. We don't know where the paint went. The roofs were said to be fixed during the 3 assessments but nothing was done. The maintenance people run around the complex plugging the holes on the roofs and fixing the ceilings and walls in the units due to the leaks. The parking lots are not swept or maintained and have potholes everywhere. The Board of Directors has not contacted the Post Office to get the 30 year old rusted mail boxes replaced other than in front of there town homes. The maintenance personnel fix stuff around the complex but then never finish it by protecting it with paint. Jobs are started and never completed like the garbage dump area that is going on 3 weeks now with a tarp on it. The Playground has rusty sharp edges on the old merry go round which could easily hurt some child. The Highline canal that surrounds our complex has become so overgrown that the roots are damaging the garages and homeless people live in them. The brush is so dense from no maintenance that some most of the beauty has been lost. Yes we have our hands full.......But we can make a difference by fixing and painting and getting help from outside sources like you folks.

BarbaraM7
(Virginia)

Posts:86

11/25/2007 3:02 PM
RobertT, I'm printing this out to read at our next BOD meeting. If we think we have problems, whoo-whee, do we have a lot to learn. There's that "If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem." You and your group are definitely on the right track to being part of the solution

GlenL
(Ohio)

Posts:1373

11/26/2007 1:31 AM
RobertR1 while he can certainly go to the BOD or MC for the information but given his complaints I don't see them being very forthcoming with the information; in fact there was a post on this subject not too long ago. Developers have a history of low balling assessments as a selling tool, and there are also the BOD's who are afraid to raise them because they think people will vote them out. Therefore you had people buying in who assumed that the annual or monthly fee would only be X number of dollars and it would never ever go up. Then something would happen like the building would need a new roof and because the fees were so low there were no reserves they would be hit with a XX$ special assessment and be given 30 days to come up with it. Not every association has the 2/3rds rule; in some like the OP the BOD can evidently impose them at will. This law requires that you fund the association and have adequate reserves or the majority of the association must vote each year to allow the possibility of having special assessments. IF you need $1,000,000 to operate like they're telling the OP then they can set dues to raise that. What they can't do is say it they will need $600,000 and then come back halfway through the year and SA for the balance.

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2148

11/26/2007 5:21 AM
GlenL, No problem with you conclusions, but, most seem to be after the fact. As are the problems of the original poster. The correction of these problems should have started even before the place was turned over. It's hard playing catch up, and harder still to crises manage. As always, most of this stuff can be circumvented with actions by the board and the education of the owners. Some of these developer tricks help him with the bottom line and when he leaves, a lot of his stuff hangs on the association like a wet coat and the BOD's all had a share in that being allowed to happen. You can say it is the peoples fault and I was of that opinion for years. I had told the board for 15 years we needed to clean up our act and revise our documents because they were filled with "Declarant". The people at the annual meetings didn't know much about it and the Board openly ignored it. I started to root around in some back files of meetings before I arrived. There in black and white was correspondence to the Board about the same kind of things I was complaining about. I have written about the seawall that we have on two sides of our complex over 15 years. I have taken pictures during storms that clearing showed sea water coming over our sea wall, I complained to the board in person and to individual Board members. They said in effect, "What are you suggesting we do about it?" "Raise the seawall, the water is coming over the top." Then yast year they got some idea from somewhere that they will spend a big chunch of money to try and make the ground on the complex side of the seawall impervious to water coming over and the sea water will in effect run back into the ocean. Not only did that not work it made it worse. Here in the past couple of months we have had some viscous and high tides and I again took pictures and sent them to board members. The other morning I invited a Board member who happened to be here for the Holiddays to walk with me and survey the scene. Conclusion: The water is coming over the sea wall, we will have to do someting about this. I'm not knocking the Board members, I have known this man for years and I like him. I don't want to be proven right, I want them to fix the problem. And here on this site there are some that take any reference to the board as Board Bashing, and our Board feels the same way. Well, it will probably be addressed soon and you don't have to guess what will happen. A special assessment. on top of one currently in effect, another being considered and now this one which will dwarf anything this place has seen. We are smack on the ocean, it is no secret to anyone, the problem seems to be (Apparently), we don't have full time board members. The only other thing I can think of is somehow I have failed the association. And right now, the water is raging up and over our seawall.

PaulM
(Pennsylvania)

Posts:1347

11/26/2007 5:32 AM
RobertR1: ..."The water is coming over the sea wall, we will have to do someting about this..." You are dealing with offsite owners, and a Board who is also 'not available' for a good bit of the time. Have you personally investigated what can be done to alleviate the problem? Have you discussed it with the local office in your town or other communities developed by the water? You would be further ahead with the Board if you were able to offer several options with possible costs to fix. Having said all that, it seems an insurmountable problem. But, we do realize to live by a 'seawall in SC' with all its beauty is why you and other residents bought where you did.

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2148

11/26/2007 5:45 AM
Paul, Yes on all counts. Especially about buying on the coast. Couldn't agree more and we are of course, going to have to try and keep the sea water from turning the garage into a swimming pool. I wouldn't think of trying to make this someone else's problem, it's ours, that is my point, and the starting line is at the Boards feet.

PenyW
(Pennsylvania)

Posts:36

11/27/2007 12:54 PM
Barbara, We didn't know the names of all members. We addressed envelopes to "Homeowner". The street addresses were easy enough to write down on a pad.

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2148

11/27/2007 1:36 PM
Peny, When you take over, the second thing you do is get a telephone directory out. The first thing is to get rid of whoever is keeping the list from you, it's on the tax records, public property. I honestly believe; if a homeowner can justify sending mailing to members at his expense, the Board should provide him with filled out mailing labels. What would this cost, damn little. If it is regime business and elections and the age old custom of protest in a group are regime business, the Board should do everything they can to help. The regime belongs to everyone, not just the Board.

RobertT
(Colorado)

Posts:40

12/01/2007 8:23 PM
http://www.neighborhoodlink.com/centennial/hmca/main.html We Have found Major Problems with the Cost of certain things; Highline Fellows The Truth is printed in the Budget

GlenL
(Ohio)

Posts:1373

12/02/2007 4:53 AM
With the dues being raised as much as the OP stated I would think that it would be easy to get the homeowners out to vote the Board out. Also if 75 people are not paying their dues, they may not be eligible to vote which may bring down your quorum requirement.

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2148

12/02/2007 5:56 AM
JackT, I just spent 30 minutes checking out your posted url. I was surprised to see such an open newletter and read some of the postings. Now for the bad part. What is that scribblings supposed to mean to us that offer advice here? This is not Wheel of Fortune and if it is I don't want to play. One other thing stands out is that petition. I would no more sign that thing than jump off a cliff. Whoever wrote it needs an attitude adjustment. I suspect someone wants to throw the Community into chaos by dissolving the present management. Dissent is a right for everyone, and done right creates dramatic positive results. This is NOT the way to go about it. Would you sign this petition? Who is proposing the changes? You are wanting to replace the Board because they are not open and above Board and start off by doing the same thing. If you stand a chance, you need a Support group, with open members, a Mission Statement and demonstrate you can do what you want done. I'm sorry JackT, I know I don't understand how bad it is, but keep in mind you don't have to convince me, you have to convince your neighbors.

RobertT
(Colorado)

Posts:40

12/02/2007 9:33 AM
Robert, You might think that the petition is not above board but it is based on the out of control spending documented in our scribbling's. The problem is that most people don't see and understand the numbers. Anyone can plainly see that our scribbling presents some good evidence out of of control spending. If you read the petition you would have noticed that it is a simple request which gives the community a chance to Audit the current management company and be presented with the facts. Did We miss something here I call it being Honest. The next portion of the Petition gives the community a opportunity to vote in a new Board of Directors who have over exceeded their terms and have authorized an emergency assessment that is having a crippling effect on this community instead of cutting cost. Now why would you jump off a cliff when the truth is being seek ed. You might not like to see it but it is true. Everything is true. We will post some Pie charts and other petition attempts to try to help you understand us. The truth has been hidden to long and its time for a reasonable Board with common sense in numbers to help this community. We are building a support group with a "Mission Statement". We must be able to convince the people that their money is being used incorrectly and that they have a voice in change. We do not like the way that our dues keep increasing and that we pay some of the highest costs of any community in the nation.

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2148

12/02/2007 10:26 AM
JackT, You have a perfect right to want to do what you say you are trying to do. I would also believe you all would like to be successful, so you better find out what your rules say (documents) and abide by the procedures for all that you want to do. Don't send out petition that are not validated as to author, etc. You don't petition to have your Board replaced. You call a special meeting according to your documents for the purpose of a recall, either one or all Board members. As bad as any board is they will have done some good, even the most selfserving one. Don't throw out the cat with the bath water. Jack, if you are in this with other folks and they can not offer any counsel, I would tread very lightly. You may find yourselve in court before an unsympathic judge, and the HOA with not be the subject. Don't make statement like,"anyone can read tha budget discription and see the fault in it." I have no idea where it came from and if you send it around and attach some validity to it, you would not accomplish what you want to do. I think I speak for most posting here when I say, we can not decide anything, it is all a part of your big picture, not ours. We don't know what you know and will never learn what you know, we can not act on what you know, only you can do that. All are most welcome to post here, but all should remember we just do the best we can, and certainly don't profess to know everything and have some special talent. We are just like a part of any large crowd, we are just doing our thing.

RobertT
(Colorado)

Posts:40

12/02/2007 12:31 PM
Robert, Thanks for your sound advice. It is in the power of the community to make the changes need for a better future. We will have to hold an election to replace the entire board since most of the members have exceeded there term limits. We realize that the current board has done the best they can and now a different thought of thinking should be implemented as soon as possible to avoid this great community from falling apart. We want to elect people who believe that reducing cost and fixing the current issues can be accomplished by a little "Elbow Grease" and community involvement. We all just want common sense changes made that don't include excessive spending by the board.We want the people to know where the money is going and why. If there is a excellent chance of saving the community some money I want to be involved. It just all seems to easy to have this board dictated to by the management company. We all need reasonable change to improve the living conditions, reduce cost, increase property values and make this community a better place to live. We together can all do it with some reasonable common sense practices which fix the problems instead of putting a band aid on them. Yes Robert.... we will overcome the beast and make change for good not worse. Highline Fellows

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2148

12/02/2007 1:07 PM
RobertT, You are like a cameleon. Sometime I wonder about you and sometimes you changes your colors and speak with a sage tongue. This post your thoughts are together and organized. You have a strong drive, keep you eye on the prize and none can wish you more success than I. I would not want to be your opponent.

RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2148

12/02/2007 1:10 PM
RobertT, A thought occurs to me that was attributed to LBJ. I would rather have him inside the tent pi--ing out, than outside the tent pi--ing in. You need to get inside the tent.

RobertT
(Colorado)

Posts:40

02/11/2008 8:19 PM
Dear Folks, We are still hanging in there and "HOPE" is our new cause. The Highline Meadow Fellows have adopted the "Super Friends" as a respresentive group to make "Change 2008". We are still at http://www.neighborhoodlink.com/centennial/hmca/ as Highline Meadow Fellows We have overcome many obstacles and learned alot about our community along the way. We have gained support from across 26 acres with 298 units. We have uncovered alot about our management company how they do business and why we are in this situation. The Fellows are committed to change and justice for the community. We have strong beliefs that we should get a dollars worth of work for at least a Dollar and no less. I speak for the community because they need me to speak out the truth. Our Petition organizers have made big strides in getting community support for the Audit of the management company and Reelection of a New Board of Directors with Newely Elected board members. We dont need the current board voting for themselves or deciding who can serve. We need to replace a President that has been in office since 2000. A New Election is needed by the vote of 51% or 151 members! Folks... We dont need help other than a pat on the back and some Cheers! Understanding our dilema, We the community together will make change and Hope for 2008

RobertT
(Colorado)

Posts:40

02/11/2008 8:21 PM
Dear Folks, We are still hanging in there and "HOPE" is our new cause. The Highline Meadow Fellows have adopted the "Super Friends" as a respresentive group to make "Change 2008". We are still at http://www.neighborhoodlink.com/centennial/hmca/ as Highline Meadow Fellows We have overcome many obstacles and learned a lot about our community along the way. We have gained support from across 26 acres with 298 units. We have uncovered a lot about our management company how they do business and why we are in this situation. The Fellows are committed to change and justice for the community. We have strong beliefs that we should get a dollars worth of work for at least a Dollar and no less. The Fellows speak for the community because they need us to speak out the truth. Our Petition organizers have made big strides in getting community support for the Audit of the management company and Reelection of a New Board of Directors with Newly Elected board members. We don't need the current board voting for themselves or deciding who can serve. We need to replace a President that has been in office since 2000. A New Election is needed by the vote of 51% or 151 members! Folks... We don't need help other than a pat on the back and some Cheers! Understanding our dilemma, We the community together will make change and Hope for 2008

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