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LarryT6


Posts:0


04/13/2018 2:23 PM  
Question: Our HoA voted in a new President and board members last year (2). Ever since then every time I submit an anonymous CCR violation report (because the management company only comes out every 6 months) somehow my name or location is dropped on our HOA Facebook Group. I'm even being blamed publicly now for things I would never report on. At the present time I believe the HOA Management Company or the BoD President is exposing my personal information to the residents of my HOA to try to shame me into not reporting violations anymore.

Do I have any recourse?
MelissaP1
(Alabama)

Posts:7170


04/13/2018 2:38 PM  
Some people believe that who ever reports the information name should be revealed. You see it here all the time. They want to know the name of the person. I am not for this myself. However, some HOA's do run this way.

Myself don't believe this should be discussed on a social media platform. It's a HOA meeting thing. Something that should be discussed at a HOA meeting. Plus we would not mention names just lot numbers if need be. Now to me if it's a violation, the important part is taking care of it. Not who reported it.

Former HOA President
LarryT6


Posts:0


04/13/2018 3:04 PM  
The only reason I report things is to keep my property value up.

The BoD President and Management do not take care of anything. Many times I report the same issue 3 or 4 times over a year or more because no action is being taken what so ever. Then all the sudden the violators get a letter and my name is dropped to the people that are raving mad because they cant park on their grass or run around the HOA riding their ATV's anymore.
MelissaP1
(Alabama)

Posts:7170


04/13/2018 4:35 PM  
A HOA does NOT keep your property value "Up". It ONLY keeps your home attractive to potential buyers. Property Values are based on real numbers. What houses sell/foreclose for of similar size and options in last 6 months. What your property and those around you look like influences potential buyers to purchase a home at value.

So I would not get caught up in the "Home Value" argument. Instead, I would get into what can I do to convince my neighbors to keep their homes looking good so people want to buy in.

Former HOA President
DouglasM6
(Arizona)

Posts:680


04/13/2018 4:35 PM  
Posted By LarryT6 on 04/13/2018 3:04 PM
The only reason I report things is to keep my property value up.




Uh oh!! Sic em Melissa!!

Posted By LarryT6 on 04/13/2018 3:04 PM
The BoD President and Management do not take care of anything. Many times I report the same issue 3 or 4 times over a year or more because no action is being taken what so ever. Then all the sudden the violators get a letter and my name is dropped to the people that are raving mad because they cant park on their grass or run around the HOA riding their ATV's anymore.




So, if I read this correctly, you want to be the neighborhood snitch but you don't want to be known for it. Have you ever heard the saying "better to hated for who you are, than loved for who you aren't". If you're not willing to stand behind the complaint, you probably shouldn't do it. Let's face it, claiming your neighbors parking on their grass is going to hurt your property values is a heck of a stretch. I do agree that a nice, clean neighborhood will attract more potential buyers, but parking on the grass?

If the facebook page is operated by the association, they should not be posting it there. If the page is more of a community page started by one of the members, not the BOD, then they can and will say pretty much anything they want. Not much you can do about that.

Maybe try to get along?


DouglasM6
(Arizona)

Posts:680


04/13/2018 4:39 PM  
Posted By MelissaP1 on 04/13/2018 4:35 PM
A HOA does NOT keep your property value "Up". It ONLY keeps your home attractive to potential buyers....




An attractive home will appraise higher than an unattractive home. With multiple people interested in the home, you can ask more than the appraisal.....

Oh Never mind.
KerryL1
(California)

Posts:5090


04/13/2018 4:51 PM  
Good one, Douglas. Gawd knows many if us have tried. Maybe yours will sink in.
MelissaP1
(Alabama)

Posts:7170


04/13/2018 5:32 PM  
No an ATTRACTIVE house has just an ATTRACTION to pay the price the seller is asking. Reality is that home value is based on REAL numbers or "comps". What are the houses in your area "comping" for? You can have a nice 3 bedroom 2 bath with a landscaped yard but if the house next door is a foreclosure... Then your home is going to be "comped" to that house.

Now granite you may live in a nice neighborhood and the homes are well kept. That means the homes will then most likely sell at the asking price. That doesn't mean it's home value was increased or maintained. It just means it's a house attractive enough that one will pay the price your asking.



Former HOA President
JohnC46
(South Carolina)

Posts:7420


04/13/2018 6:25 PM  
As Doug said:

So, if I read this correctly, you want to be the neighborhood snitch but you don't want to be known for it. Have you ever heard the saying "better to hated for who you are, than loved for who you aren't". If you're not willing to stand behind the complaint, you probably shouldn't do it.
KerryL1
(California)

Posts:5090


04/13/2018 6:26 PM  
Larry, does your HOA have a policy about how residents' complaints are handled? We have a form resident fill out about alleged violations. It says their privacy will be protected. Once staff checks out the complaint, the rest is the HOA's action, not the residents'.

But have you thought about complaining at HOA meetings to the entire board? Why is it only the prez who does (or doesn't) take care of these alleged violation.

I agree that cars parked on the grass can be very unsightly. I agree that if more ann a couple property values could be affected. But it depends on your setting. Douglas, for instance, lives in a rural area, I believe. Is there a rule against it?? If so, ask at a board meeting why the rule isn't enforced. Get some neighbors to support you in your quest to improve your HOA's appearance.
KerryL1
(California)

Posts:5090


04/13/2018 6:27 PM  
Larry, does your HOA have a policy about how residents' complaints are handled? We have a form resident fill out about alleged violations. It says their privacy will be protected. Once staff checks out the complaint, the rest is the HOA's action, not the residents'.

But have you thought about complaining at HOA meetings to the entire board? Why is it only the prez who does (or doesn't) take care of these alleged violation.

I agree that cars parked on the grass can be very unsightly. I agree that if more ann a couple property values could be affected. But it depends on your setting. Douglas, for instance, lives in a rural area, I believe. Is there a rule against it?? If so, ask at a board meeting why the rule isn't enforced. Get some neighbors to support you in your quest to improve your HOA's appearance.
JohnC46
(South Carolina)

Posts:7420


04/13/2018 6:30 PM  
Our policy has been that no matter how notified of a violation the BOD will look at it and if it is valid, the BOD President becomes the complainer.
JohnC46
(South Carolina)

Posts:7420


04/13/2018 6:32 PM  
Posted By JohnC46 on 04/13/2018 6:30 PM
Our policy has been that no matter how notified of a violation the BOD will look at it and if it is valid, the BOD President becomes the complainer.




OOPS

Allow me to clarify:

The BOD President notifies the MC and the MC becomes the complainer of record. Part of their agreement with us is they will play the bad guy.
LarryT6


Posts:0


04/13/2018 9:49 PM  
Our method is we submit to the HOA Management company and they notify the BoD if the complaint is valid or not without disclosing the complainant information. This is to ensure a stable healthy community.

I do not report about small things, that is a waste of everyones time. Just like anyone in the HOA has a right to do. Examples would be: Junk Cars / Renters not aware of the CCR's Swapping/Pulling motors in their front yards / Grass 2ft plus tall that hasn't been mowed in 6 months / people fucking in the pool .. yes you read that right, our home backs up the pool area so we see most everything that happens during the day and when people jump the fence at night.

Anyways, We have 85 homes here and only 10+ or so are acting like high school kids but they all live right next to me so I'll just ignore it and hope it gets better.

Thanks everyone for your responses.
GenoS
(Florida)

Posts:1972


04/13/2018 9:53 PM  
Posted By LarryT6 on 04/13/2018 2:23 PM
Ever since then every time I submit an anonymous CCR violation report (because the management company only comes out every 6 months) somehow my name or location is dropped on our HOA Facebook Group.

If the Facebook group is officially maintained by the association then step 1 is to end that arrangement as soon as possible. You can't seriously talk about privacy while embracing the use of Facebook.
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