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LV
(South Carolina)

Posts:30


11/08/2017 10:33 AM  
Just some advice,

We have a cable basic service package that is being paid for currently by the HOA at a monthly per home cost. There are 600 homes that the HOA pays a monthly fee and is covered in HOA fees. We are coming up on contract renewal and we are looking to understand if its worth it.

Basically, we pay a monthly fee per home whether they have the provider or not. The provider cannot tell us in our bill where the discount is applied currently. My contention is that if they can't tell us where the discount is, then its just giving away money to a cable provider for free. Am I wrong? The folks who have bundles already have locked in rates, etc and have a discount. We already have homeowners who don't use this provider at all. Just looking to do the right thing and not sign a contract where we are giving away money to a cable provider for free. It equates to more than 60k/year. Please advise.
SheliaH
(Indiana)

Posts:1986


11/08/2017 10:42 AM  
If this is getting too expensive for the HOA, I'd consider dropping the service. Having cable TV isn't nearly as important as roof repair, street repaving or mowing the lawn - those are services that are better suited for HOA assessments. Besides many people are cutting the cord altogether and going with internet TV services.

Since the board is considering it, why not poll the homeowners and see what they want to do? Show them the numbers - it costs X amount a year or X amount per home, but X number of homeowners don't use it, so the association is losing money. Better to drop the contract and let everyone contact the cable company themselves as to what package works for them.
KerryL1
(California)

Posts:4381


11/08/2017 11:03 AM  
I like Sheila's idea about polling Owners about what they want.

But, as she also wrote, many folks are cutting the cord, so why should everyone in an HOA pay for cable service? Even in our high rise condo, each Owner has their own cable provider that they each pay for.
CarlJ2
(Texas)

Posts:165


11/08/2017 12:02 PM  
I would object to a forced cable contract. I would much rather have control over that. I'd try to lobby the HOA to dump the service entirely.
JohnC46
(South Carolina)

Posts:7010


11/08/2017 4:31 PM  
Posted By CarlJ2 on 11/08/2017 12:02 PM
I would object to a forced cable contract. I would much rather have control over that. I'd try to lobby the HOA to dump the service entirely.




I agree.
JanetB2
(Colorado)

Posts:3642


11/08/2017 6:31 PM  
At 60K per year ... I am with Sheila and the guys. I would rather as a homeowner make my own choice regarding television.
JanetB2
(Colorado)

Posts:3642


11/08/2017 6:34 PM  
Having said that ... it is a good price for 600 homes, depending on what is provided. $60,000 / 600 = $100 per home per year.
LetA
(Nevada)

Posts:307


11/09/2017 11:58 AM  
I too would recommend polling each homeowner. I am assuming you are in a condo-townhome HOA?
Since a vast majority of people are now streaming their content, having cable service appears to be moot.
Have you considered installing rooftop antennas so people can get just local broadcasts?
TimM11


Posts:102


11/09/2017 12:00 PM  
Posted By JanetB2 on 11/08/2017 6:34 PM
Having said that ... it is a good price for 600 homes, depending on what is provided. $60,000 / 600 = $100 per home per year.




But it sounds like it's just a discount, not the actual price of the service. At least, that's the impression I had.

Personally, I wouldn't want my HOA to do this, for the reasons others have said.
JanetB2
(Colorado)

Posts:3642


11/09/2017 1:10 PM  
Posted By TimM11 on 11/09/2017 12:00 PM
Posted By JanetB2 on 11/08/2017 6:34 PM
Having said that ... it is a good price for 600 homes, depending on what is provided. $60,000 / 600 = $100 per home per year.




But it sounds like it's just a discount, not the actual price of the service. At least, that's the impression I had.

Personally, I wouldn't want my HOA to do this, for the reasons others have said.


The OP stated is for cable basic service. Potentially if owners would want more than just the basic, they are to just pay the difference between the package choices ... if the cable company is calculating correctly. If any owners are paying the full price for any package they chose without the basic paid by the HOA for their property being deducted to reduce their bill, they potentially have overpaid.
GreggT
(Florida)

Posts:64


11/10/2017 6:01 AM  
It looks like Basic Service is just around a hundred dollars a year, a great deal. Our condo complex pays around $30.00 a month for expanded basic plus HBO. Here at my house, we pay $102.00 a month for the same service except no HBO (HBO would be another $15.00 for a total of $117.00). Just personally I'm not will to give up $87.00 a month just to say I have "Personal Control".
TimM11


Posts:102


11/10/2017 6:38 AM  
Posted By GreggT on 11/10/2017 6:01 AM
It looks like Basic Service is just around a hundred dollars a year, a great deal. Our condo complex pays around $30.00 a month for expanded basic plus HBO. Here at my house, we pay $102.00 a month for the same service except no HBO (HBO would be another $15.00 for a total of $117.00). Just personally I'm not will to give up $87.00 a month just to say I have "Personal Control".




*shrug* I'm a "cord cutter", so even cheap basic cable would have no value to me. I have a $30 Roku and a few streaming services, and that's good enough for my needs. I know everyone's preferences are different.
TimB4
(Virginia)

Posts:14860


11/11/2017 1:49 AM  
Personally, I don't like such agreements.

If the Association needs internet service, then they should simply contract for themselves.

That said, I do understand the benefits, especially in high rise condos, that such a contract can have. However, if the building is designed properly with cables ran to one central location, then any provider could hook up to any unit.
GreggT
(Florida)

Posts:64


11/11/2017 5:10 AM  
Posted By TimB4 on 11/11/2017 1:49 AM
Personally, I don't like such agreements.

If the Association needs internet service, then they should simply contract for themselves.

That said, I do understand the benefits, especially in high rise condos, that such a contract can have. However, if the building is designed properly with cables ran to one central location, then any provider could hook up to any unit.




They certainly can.......At a much higher price monthly fee.
KerryL1
(California)

Posts:4381


11/11/2017 7:00 PM  
We have a high-speed internet provider whom we let wire our twin high rise condos so that any of us can subscribe if we choose. Our board approved this in exchange for them providing free service to our managers and security staff.

TV is on each Owner, & there are too many personal preference choices for one size to fit all 200+, which now includes many cord cutters, and which'll include my spouse & me soon.
SamE2
(New Jersey)

Posts:7


11/12/2017 12:26 PM  
The cost per unit is $8.33 per month for basic service. Is the a good discount for your area? Are there other discounts for additional services? It seems like a good deal and something you should try to keep if the services can be flexible.
PatF4
(Illinois)

Posts:3


11/13/2017 6:35 AM  
We've found that our bill has been steadily on the rise over the last 3 years and for a 50 unit complex we are paying just north of $27,000. We have elected to bring bulk high speed internet to the building and cancel the cable. This will save us over $10,000 annually and will bring the owners a more useful service as opposed to basic cable.
LV
(South Carolina)

Posts:30


11/14/2017 1:45 PM  
This is a single family residence community and not condo/townhome.
JanetB2
(Colorado)

Posts:3642


11/15/2017 8:33 PM  
Posted By LV on 11/14/2017 1:45 PM
This is a single family residence community and not condo/townhome.


What do your CCR's state regarding the HOA providing this service?
LV
(South Carolina)

Posts:30


11/16/2017 12:06 PM  
There is no mention in CCRs for cable contract. This was something done with the developer and now they want to re-up which i don't believe is a good idea.
JohnC46
(South Carolina)

Posts:7010


11/16/2017 3:35 PM  
I might could understand a cable contract for a multi unit building if for no other reason then to help cover the costs of wiring such a building. For a standalone homes association (such as ours) I so no validity for such a contract even if it brings some services in below a single purchaser price.
GenoS
(Florida)

Posts:1631


11/17/2017 12:53 AM  
I think you're right, LV. Cable companies are shedding customers at a prodigious rate and are desperate to staunch the bleeding. I'd want to see every last penny of cost breakdown, including the regular rate and the discounted rate being offered. Get them to divulge all the taxes, fees and surcharges, too.
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