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Subject: It finally happened - we ticked off owners
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TimB4
(Virginia)

Posts:14509


08/29/2017 2:53 PM  
Bancs,

It doesn't affect individual homeowners.
Mainly developments and HOAs.
CarlJ2
(Texas)

Posts:103


08/29/2017 3:41 PM  
It does not alter the fact that HOAs restrict people's ability to landscape on theirown property.
MelissaP1
(Alabama)

Posts:6650


08/29/2017 6:24 PM  
That's not a bad thing there Carl. Believe me, it's not. Had a homeowner who's renter decided to plant PLASTIC flowers! It looked like a gravesite memorial. (Which I thought it was at first). You can imagine the reaction the HOA had to that. Many of the owners pride themselves on their gardens. Plastic flowers were definitely NOT approved or appreciated.

My non-HOA home has neighbor who treats their yard like a 24 hour yard sale. Junk sits around the yard and attracts rodents/mosquitos. If we were in a HOA, we could clean up the mess or not allow it. Being we are in the city, we can only call them to address the issue. I've talked to several of that person's neighbors who don't think they could ever sell their house because no one wants to live near that.

Former HOA President
CarlJ2
(Texas)

Posts:103


08/30/2017 4:52 AM  
I disagree with a great deal of what you just said, but I don't want to hijack Tim's thread to get into it.
PitA


Posts:0


08/30/2017 8:18 AM  
• Aesthetically pleasing
• Minimizes or eliminates erosion
• Provides open areas for minor play and court picnics
• Discourages team sport play
• Does not contain pergolas or gazebos
• Allows for parking of vehicles around the island
• Minimizes tree branches overhanging vehicles parked around island
• Minimal maintenance (pruning) requirements


Should have added:

CODE COMPLIANT



add that to EVERY proposal - C/Y/A
TimB4
(Virginia)

Posts:14509


08/30/2017 10:39 PM  
Posted By BancsS on 08/29/2017 2:08 PM

I know you replied to Dave but this really interests me. We can just plant and remove trees wherever and wherever we want. I'm not used to that amount of county control.




I did some reading.
It has to do with complying with the Federal Clean Air Act

The act was created in 1963.
It was last amended in 1990.

See: https://www.epa.gov/clean-air-act-overview/evolution-clean-air-act


States and Counties made the appropriate changes to their codes to comply.
TimB4
(Virginia)

Posts:14509


09/12/2017 6:28 PM  
For those who may be interested, I wanted to provide an update.

Tonight we had our board meeting. Fortunately, the group (12 to 15 people) showed up 1/2 hour into the meeting.
This allowed the Board to get through the normal business relatively quickly.

I left for work after 50 minutes of back and forth and the meeting was still going on.
We discovered that the individual who informed the County, did so the day the trees were cut down.
Therefore, to me, that action was more of a vindictive action vs. wanting to work with the board.

The main issue was the Boards lack of communication.
The Board apologized for that but it didn't seem to help much.

One individual did thank the Board for their work.
One other individual did say this is all water under the bridge and we have to move forward.

One person asked how this meeting would have helped. It was explained that had we stayed ignorant of the County code, the Board would have worked with those in the meeting to come up with the number, species and placement of trees on the island. Unfortunately, being aware of the code, we need to comply and that means everything has to be approved through the County which would cost $3,000 (for a small change) or $8,000 (for a major change) just to have the County consider the plan (with zero guarantee that it would be approved).

One person thought the Board didn't understand why they were here.
1) The lack of communication (which we had already admitted to)
2) The clear cutting (which had been explained - the trees had cankers, insect damage and disease).

Therefore, it appears that (at least) that one person still wasn't listening.




On a positive note, two individuals volunteered to serve next year (the one who thanked the Board and the one who said we need to move forward).
DaveD3
(Michigan)

Posts:726


09/12/2017 7:01 PM  
If only ONE person wasn't listening, you're a shoe-in for HOA of the year, Tim.

Thanks for the update. Hopefully things can move along well-enough very soon.
TimB4
(Virginia)

Posts:14509


09/12/2017 9:01 PM  
I wish.

It's more likely that only one gave the indication that they were not listening.
There were probably more who didn't imply one way or the other if they were listening.
JanetB2
(Colorado)

Posts:3355


09/12/2017 9:09 PM  
I find that usually open honestly wins the day!
TimB4
(Virginia)

Posts:14509


09/13/2017 12:21 AM  
Posted By JanetB2 on 09/12/2017 9:09 PM
I find that usually open honestly wins the day!




It's what we have done.

However, that only works if individuals are listening (vs. simply hearing).

AugustinD


Posts:508


09/13/2017 4:44 AM  
Posted By JanetB2 on 09/12/2017 9:09 PM
I find that usually open honesty wins the day!




Stanford Business School Professor Jeffrey Pfeffer has studied and written about perceptions of leadership. Popular leadership writers almost universally praise five attributes: Modesty, authenticity, truthfulness, trustworthiness and selflessness.
TimB4
(Virginia)

Posts:14509


09/13/2017 3:05 PM  
Found out that the meeting went on for another hour after I left.

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