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KathyS
(California)

Posts:142

02/16/2006 12:38 AM
I know there have been several questions on the forums about parking but I didn't find this one. Can a Board decide to paint the curbs red in front of only 16 homes in a 230 home single family home association? These curbs would only apply to those 16 families. A Board member decided the curbs should be painted red because he couldn't drive his double cab four wheel drive truck with a 16 foot long boat with trailor easily around those particular corners. The rest of the Board agreed although boats aren't even allowed in this association. When they paint the curbs it will eliminate all but our driveway parking. We are now allowed to park in the street and it is part of the reason we bought a corner lot, so we would have the additional parking.

ValerieS
(Georgia)

Posts:19

02/16/2006 6:28 AM
Let me understand - You purchased property on a corner lot so that you could have additional parking on the street? Do you think that a wise decision knowing that parking on the curb may empede the flow of traffic in your community? Why not park in the garage (which should not be used for storage) and/or your driveway? I do not understand why parking on the street is an issue. If an owner is having a gathering at his/her home, it is best to advise the HOA or at the least the neighbors and the event should not exceed more than 2-3 hours as a consideration of others. I don't really know about painting the curbs red but I am beginning to think that it may not be a bad idea. Obviously, these 16 areas are the most problematic. However, I am wondering if the street in your community are public or private? In addition, what does your community covenants/by-laws/rules and regulations say regarding parking on the street?

KathyS
(California)

Posts:142

02/16/2006 6:55 AM
Valerie, When we purchased this property 25 years ago, we thought it was a very good idea. For 24 of those 25 years there never has been a problem with the flow of traffic. It is since the Board member with the 16 foot boat came into play that there is a problem with the parking. We don't have to park in our driveways. We don't have to park in our garages. We don't have to tell the Board or other homeowners when we are going to have guests. The neighbors all get along and have enough consideration to not complain about each other if we have company. Furthermore, if our neighbors have a party and it last 10 hours, no one is going to complain. Being a diverse ethnic community, some families celebrate some occassions with huge parties. We have no complaints. I don't understand why some people in some associations feel they need to take the joy out of a celebration by limiting the number of guests and time people can celebrate. They must be very angry people to dislike seeing others happy. Need I say more.

RogerB
(Colorado)

Posts:3701

02/16/2006 8:49 AM
Some HOAs in Colorado have created rules and regulations on parking. "Vehicles shall be parked in the garage, with overflow parking in the driveway. After which curb side street parking is allowed but only for a couple of hours. Garage doors shall be closed when not in use." The purpose of this rule is to protect against theft and for safety (children can dart out into the street from behind a car). The appearance of the subdivision is improved which improves property values. These are sometimes public streets within the association. RogerB

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ValerieS
(Georgia)

Posts:19

02/16/2006 3:54 PM
Kathy, please, do not take offense. I am simply trying to understand because in my community it is just as Roger reiterates. Unfortunately we live in a society of selfishness and inconsideration of others - - those are the folks that cause the majority of us to require regulation. Wow! You've lived in your community for 25 years. That is great and also makes a big difference in interpeting your concerns. In addition, it seems that Texas and California are having some real problems because some of you sound absolutely miserable. I live in Georgia and our subdivision is only 3 years old. We have a diverse community of 202 single family homes and there has never been more than 20 homeowners at HOA meetings, they are completely apathetic and many have no regards for others. If they are not regulated, our community would be complete chaios. Unfortunately, regulation is necessary. However, I trust that 25 years from now, a MC will not be needed here. I sincerely hope that you all can find some relief. Sorry.

LouraS

Posts:9

02/16/2006 6:00 PM
The first issue for you to look at is whether the Association has control over the streets...are they private streets or have they been dedicated to your city or county? If they are public streets then I seriously doubt the Association without the "blessing" of the governmental entity would have the authority to paint the curbs red. Another issue is what was done by the board in addition to painting the curb red. A red curb, without a rule or covenant addressing what that means, is nothing more than a red curb. We only associate it with no parking because of how it has been used by cities. So, I'd look at the rules/regulations of the association to determine if there is anything related to the red curbs. If there is, it would be treated like any other rule of an association in terms or reasonableness, etc.

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KathyS
(California)

Posts:142

02/17/2006 6:57 AM
Thank you. We don't have any rules or CC&R's about red curbs. You have been very helpful and hopefully just the answer I need.

LisaS
(Illinois)

Posts:339

02/19/2006 3:08 PM
In our community the roads are public, and we would never be allowed to paint them red- or mandate what the 'red curbs' meant. We are not allowed to park vehicles on the street between the hours of 1am & 6am without prior police permission per our town ordinance. This allows plows free access in the winter, street sweepers free access in the summer. It also helps lower the incidence of car break-ins.

EdR
(Texas)

Posts:170

02/20/2006 6:24 AM
Too bad they don't keep the vehicles off the street until after the buses for school children run; I have seen many children run between parked cars and not be seen by other drivers, or the bus driver for that matter. Our assn. has no parking 11p to 6a--no bus comes before 7a. EdR

HankL
(Maryland)

Posts:47

02/20/2006 2:27 PM
No one should be forced to park a car in the garage. If trailers and boats are not allowed, take the necessary steps until you win. This might be a tow truck, storage lot of the tow company, etc. Just follow you rules. First letter should have USPS delivery confirmation. Second should be Registered, and advise that a hearing will be held by the Board. Third should be Certified and written by a lawyer. Our Board has the power to force a member out, even for "no reason." How about yours? Any mention of "conflict of interest"ithin a Board?

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