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MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
The saga continues:

The president of our HOA claims that one unit owes back HOA dues from 2010 - 2011. From my review of what little bookkeeping the presdent has, he does not. He has never sent him a notice about past HOA dues. He only sends emails with conflicting amounts of monies he is demanding from him. For example: It was $1,800, then he told him he would reduce the dues if he had receipts to prove he made repairs to his unit that the developer would not reimburse him for after purchase of the unit, which then he would drop the amount to $524 owed. Then another email with the monthly HOA invoice in 2011 shows a zero balance for him.

The emails from the presient I've been shown are harassing and demanding. Such language as: "If you don't pay this by the end of the day at 5:00 p.m. with a check at my door - the deal is off!" He is also demandng a release that says the unit owner won't sue him, the HOA or the developer. (He has tried the same tactic with us).

The developer even sent the unit owner an email "release" to sign that says he owes nothing as long as he signs the release saying he won't sue him, his heirs, company, affiliates, the HOA, the HOA president, and basically the world. The developer had not signed the release prior to sending to the unit owner.

There is no fine schedule that I can find in our HOA documents. Besides this probably being illegal and possibly extortion - is there some sort of statute of limitations on this? And, what protocol must be taken to give notice to someone who may be delinquent in paying their dues?

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
To my knowledge, there is not a statute of limitations on Assessments owed.

There is however, a statute of limitations on sueing someone to recover damages (which appears to be what your developer, etc. are concerned about).

I would suggest that you and this other member take all your information to an attorney and get legal advice from someone who will have access to your information, the governing documents and be trained/knowledgeable in AZ law.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
If the homeowner has cancelled checks to prove they paid, I would say it would be a no brainer and if they were stupid enough to pay cash and not get a receipt then shame on them.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
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Posted By TimB4 on 08/15/2012 1:44 PM
To my knowledge, there is not a statute of limitations on Assessments owed.

I believe there is a statute of limitations on debts - 7 years, I believe.
MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
Thanks, Tim for the help. It looks like we will be pursuing an attorney. Anyone have a good suggestion for an HOA attorney in Phoenix, AZ?
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Marcia you're ignoring the basic question. Does the homeowner owe past dues or can he/she prove they paid them? If they owe, they need to pay, for they are taking money out of your pocket as well as the associations by not paying.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
There is effectively a three-year limit on assessment liens.

Per ARS 33-1256(F): A lien for unpaid assessments is extinguished unless proceedings to enforce the lien are instituted within three years after the full amount of the assessments becomes due.

The same statute prevents an association from foreclosing until the amount owed is at least $1200 or the assessment is one year past due. This creates a narrow window for an association to act.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Marcia,

An HOA consists of several specialties:

Deed Restrictions typically fall under contract law
Procedural Issues typically fall under corporate law (expecting the Association is incorporated)
easement issues typically fall under real estate law

You should identify what the main issue is then pick an attorney who is versed in that speciality. It's a plus if they belong to a firm that handles the other issues as well with staff in those specialities.

The "HOA" attorneys typically are the firms representing the Association and therefore, tend to shy away from individuals bringing action against Associations.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
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Posted By MarciaV on 08/15/2012 3:04 PM
Thanks, Tim for the help. It looks like we will be pursuing an attorney. Anyone have a good suggestion for an HOA attorney in Phoenix, AZ?

Marcia:

I do not who to recommend but there is a law firm in Mesa specializing in HOA law that you should stay away from. Their initials suggest Mickey Mouse or M&M's. They are the worst.
MarciaV (California)
Posts: 52
Posted:
Thanks to all for your help.

He has paid his dues - can prove it.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Then all he needs to do is make copies of his checks (front and back) and give them to the HOA.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions

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