EM2 (California)
Posts: 28
Posts: 28
Posted:
I have volunteered to gather information on the "pros and cons" of incorporating our HOA (in California). Built in the 1980s, fewer than 15 units, the CC&Rs have never been amended and obviously long predate Sterling Davis. The board does not follow its own CC&Rs for having elections (eg having verbal votes rather than in writing as dictated because there are always only one volunteer for each slot, so having elections by written ballot is seen as being pointless). I am concerned this could open us up to a lawsuit by former or current owners who can claim the elections and therefore subsequent decisions are invalid. Further, we only ever have one open meeting a year, the rest of the meetings are for the three board members only (the CC&Rs say there only needs to be one annual open meeting).
Some owners don't see the point of the expense of incorporating with the state or updating the CC&Rs because they do not see any inherent risk by keeping them as they are. For example, liability is believed to be covered by BOD Insurance, and incorporating will not provide any extra protection. We also do not have a property management company because people perceive it to be too expensive, even though we often do not get repairs done in a timely manner and no one is willing to go after owners who don't pay dues because "its too difficult and we likely wouldn't win anyway." All money management is in the hands of the resident treasurer (who *fortunately* is honest, competent, and sane). While we don't have concerns about corruption with the current board, it seems like we are just asking for a huge host of trouble if we keep things as status quo. A growing chunk of the owners want to move in this direction, but we need good evidence to back us up (and going to an attorney is not an expense the board will approve at this stage). It just seems negligent not to move forward but we need examples...
Can anyone provide me with resources as to: a) pros/cons of Incorporating the HOA in California (as I mentioned, I've been told by the current board that it won't impact liability but I don't know if that is true); b) what is the impact of the fact that our CC&Rs are going on 30 years un-updated; c) anything else I might not be thinking of?
Some owners don't see the point of the expense of incorporating with the state or updating the CC&Rs because they do not see any inherent risk by keeping them as they are. For example, liability is believed to be covered by BOD Insurance, and incorporating will not provide any extra protection. We also do not have a property management company because people perceive it to be too expensive, even though we often do not get repairs done in a timely manner and no one is willing to go after owners who don't pay dues because "its too difficult and we likely wouldn't win anyway." All money management is in the hands of the resident treasurer (who *fortunately* is honest, competent, and sane). While we don't have concerns about corruption with the current board, it seems like we are just asking for a huge host of trouble if we keep things as status quo. A growing chunk of the owners want to move in this direction, but we need good evidence to back us up (and going to an attorney is not an expense the board will approve at this stage). It just seems negligent not to move forward but we need examples...
Can anyone provide me with resources as to: a) pros/cons of Incorporating the HOA in California (as I mentioned, I've been told by the current board that it won't impact liability but I don't know if that is true); b) what is the impact of the fact that our CC&Rs are going on 30 years un-updated; c) anything else I might not be thinking of?