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JeffL7 (Washington)
Posts: 14
Posted:
We are located in northern Washington State. We are 10 lots with only 6 houses built. All lots are have been sold since 2008 with the developer not onwing any of them. We have no HOA, we have CC&R's and no Archetictual commitee. I'm the only owner who seems to care about our community. I'm the one who mows all the common grass areas, make sure the road is clean, the entry gate is operating correctly and all garbage is picked up. I basically take care of the community at my cost and time. One of the owners had chickens, which were roaming off his property into the common areas and crapping everywhere. Myself and another owner did not care for this. The other owner was scared of hostility and did not want to get involved. So, I go it solo and ask the owner with the chickens to maintain them to his property. He said ok. Two weeks go by and he doesn't do a thing. Ask him a second time. He says ok. Nothing happens. Ask him a third time and he's mad. I write him an email outlining the restriction as per our CC&R's that chickens must be maintained in a fenced area or adequate coop. He somewhat complies but lets them out every so often. But, he states that he doesn't care about the CC&R's. Here is the bigger issue. He is building a wood fence on his property to contain his chickens and I previously advised him to adhere to the CC&R's, which state the fence must be the same in style and materials as the perimeter plat fence. It is currently a vinyl fence with 2 horiontal beams only. My question is I would like to ask him again to adhere to the CC&R's to match his fence to the existing perimeter fence. We have no HOA. Do I have a leg to stand on if I advise him of court action if he doesn't comply?
JeffL7 (Washington)
Posts: 14
Posted:
Found a clause that states no fence shall be permitted that is inconsistent with the perimeter fencing of the subdivision in quality, style and materials, nor more than six (6) feet in height. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the Architectural Control Comittee shall have full discretion to approve or disapprove any fence, in its sole discretion.

Also, states in another clause that the "nominee" of the Declarant shall be known and referred to as the "Architectural Control Committee", appointed by the Declarant and serving at the will of the Declarant until such time as primary residences have been constructed on all lots within the subdivision, at which time the Architectural Control Committee shall cease to exist with no further powers whatsoever.

Myself or none of my neighbors (6 of us) are known to have been appointed as 'Nominee' by the Declarant(developer). What do we do in this case? Do I try and contact the developer and ask questions? There are also 4 lots with no residences constructed!
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,046
Posted:
Jeff,

Never threaten court action unless you are willing to go through with it. Otherwise, if the violator want's to see if your bluffing and you are, you will lose all credibility in the future.

You will need to read your CC&Rs but typically they allow homeowners to file for injunction relief of violators with the courts. If there is no Association, you will personally need to pay the court costs that may or may not be paid by the losing party. If your considering legal action, seek the advice of a local attorney and start putting all communication in writing so there is a paper trail.

If you have no Association is anyone collecting assessments or paying the bills?

JeffL7 (Washington)
Posts: 14
Posted:
Tim- Thanks for the advise. The last thing I want to do is go to court. I'd rather everyone to adhere to all CC&R's. I will NOT ever bluff about going to court. Thanks for your input on that matter.

Since, I'm the only one willing to do anything in this subdivision, I currently pay for the electrical to the entry gate on a seperate account than my personal electrical bill. It is roughly $12 a month. It's been 3 months since the Gate meter was put into my name. The Hydro company was threatening to cut power to gate.

Any ideas about this "nominee" issue and the Declarant?
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
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and no Archetictual commitee


One must form an Archetictual commitee before forms can be submitted to them.

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Found a clause that states no fence shall be permitted that is inconsistent with the perimeter fencing


You must send a copy of this to the neighbor immediately. Explain that he may want to reconsider the fence material because he may need to replace it in the future when CCR's are upheld. There is no grandfathering for breaking current bylaws.

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Any ideas about this "nominee" issue and the Declarant?


Sounds like you need to get the developer to turn over the association. Since he is not paying the electric bill anymore, its likely he is not paying many other bills such as insurance.
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
Jeff:

do you have a leg to stand on? from what you have told us I would conclude yes. But as Tim said don't bluff him. I would start with giving a copy of this to the homeowner, in fact it may not be a bad idea to send to all homeowners. Ultimately your only recourse will be court action if he refuses.

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