JohnD36 (Texas)
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Posts: 21
Posted:
Excuse the wordiness. I have four important questions.
I live in San Antonio Texas. My HOA has 12 communities of 1275 Houses total (No Condos). The HOA generates over $1 Million + in income per year of association.
Question 1: Our MC lady also serves at the Book-Keeper and generated the data presented to the HOA members recently at the annual meeting (< Legit?).
I have attended a few HOA meetings and I have my doubts about a few things, seems like many things are hush-hush and we will discuss that in the "Executive Meeting" Air Quotes. One meeting I heard of the street sweeper contract but on the HOA annual financial report there is no line item mention to there being a street sweeper contract. There are other instances that make me wonder but this is just one example. Another was a total gate replacement for a neighborhood with no mention on the annual report.
Questions>
2. Does the annual report need to list contracts in plain language or can they be generic lumped together?
3. Does my HOA require any type of periodic Financial Audit by a independent agency, and would the MC be obligated to provide that to me?
I know they have had a security audit, and I see on this Forum that financial reviews are not as detailed as financial audits.
4th Question: The 2 communities that are public pay the same dues as all other private gated members. I have lived here for 3 years. Do I have any legal recourse on getting prorated future dues or money back? See below The quote from their governing documents
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Finally I live in one of the 2 non gated with public streets and the other 10 communities have gates (some multiple and private roads).
In their own Amendment 6 (Effective March 2008): Documents it states that. "Annual assessments and special assessments due the Association will be fixed at a uniform rate: provided however, all Annual assessments for residential units with manned guard entries, gated entries, private streets, and or other items of significant expense not common to all of the Residential Units shall be set at a level sufficiently in excess of the annual assessments for residential units without manned guard entries, gated entries, private streets and or other item of significant expense not common to all of the residential units to ensure the payment of such expends solely out of the funds collected from lots within such resident units. If the board determines that the operating cost for certain residential units are significantly less that the operating cost of other residential units of the project, the board may in its sole discretion reduce the rates of the annual assessment for the residential units with operating costs significantly less than the majority of the other residential units of the project. All annual assessments may be collected on a monthly or quarterly basis in lieu of annually. This decision may be made by the declarant until turnover occurs and there after may be made by a majority of the BOD
At a recent meeting our president of 10 years stated he was required to charge everyone a equal rate. I then had to bust his bubble and read the above directly out of their own document posted on their own website.
The statement in amendment 6 that worries me is "The board may in its sole discretion reduce the rates" I know the gate expense is significant. There is alot of expense that we do not incur as a public community, and a full audit would prove that, but if my MC generates and presents the figures it is like the Fox watching the chickens.
My 58 unit community generates over $65,000 (-13K for Trash service). I think by crunching their HOA annual numbers we over pay by half 50% for services we receive. The MC lady at the meeting said the gated communities are only spending additional money on grease for their gates and she thought that it was the gated communities cost about possibly 3% more only than the public communities.
I do have the annual HOA report I could send someone if they wanted to look at it.
Hopefully my president or MC lady is not trolling the forum. :o)
I live in San Antonio Texas. My HOA has 12 communities of 1275 Houses total (No Condos). The HOA generates over $1 Million + in income per year of association.
Question 1: Our MC lady also serves at the Book-Keeper and generated the data presented to the HOA members recently at the annual meeting (< Legit?).
I have attended a few HOA meetings and I have my doubts about a few things, seems like many things are hush-hush and we will discuss that in the "Executive Meeting" Air Quotes. One meeting I heard of the street sweeper contract but on the HOA annual financial report there is no line item mention to there being a street sweeper contract. There are other instances that make me wonder but this is just one example. Another was a total gate replacement for a neighborhood with no mention on the annual report.
Questions>
2. Does the annual report need to list contracts in plain language or can they be generic lumped together?
3. Does my HOA require any type of periodic Financial Audit by a independent agency, and would the MC be obligated to provide that to me?
I know they have had a security audit, and I see on this Forum that financial reviews are not as detailed as financial audits.
4th Question: The 2 communities that are public pay the same dues as all other private gated members. I have lived here for 3 years. Do I have any legal recourse on getting prorated future dues or money back? See below The quote from their governing documents
.
Finally I live in one of the 2 non gated with public streets and the other 10 communities have gates (some multiple and private roads).
In their own Amendment 6 (Effective March 2008): Documents it states that. "Annual assessments and special assessments due the Association will be fixed at a uniform rate: provided however, all Annual assessments for residential units with manned guard entries, gated entries, private streets, and or other items of significant expense not common to all of the Residential Units shall be set at a level sufficiently in excess of the annual assessments for residential units without manned guard entries, gated entries, private streets and or other item of significant expense not common to all of the residential units to ensure the payment of such expends solely out of the funds collected from lots within such resident units. If the board determines that the operating cost for certain residential units are significantly less that the operating cost of other residential units of the project, the board may in its sole discretion reduce the rates of the annual assessment for the residential units with operating costs significantly less than the majority of the other residential units of the project. All annual assessments may be collected on a monthly or quarterly basis in lieu of annually. This decision may be made by the declarant until turnover occurs and there after may be made by a majority of the BOD
At a recent meeting our president of 10 years stated he was required to charge everyone a equal rate. I then had to bust his bubble and read the above directly out of their own document posted on their own website.
The statement in amendment 6 that worries me is "The board may in its sole discretion reduce the rates" I know the gate expense is significant. There is alot of expense that we do not incur as a public community, and a full audit would prove that, but if my MC generates and presents the figures it is like the Fox watching the chickens.
My 58 unit community generates over $65,000 (-13K for Trash service). I think by crunching their HOA annual numbers we over pay by half 50% for services we receive. The MC lady at the meeting said the gated communities are only spending additional money on grease for their gates and she thought that it was the gated communities cost about possibly 3% more only than the public communities.
I do have the annual HOA report I could send someone if they wanted to look at it.
Hopefully my president or MC lady is not trolling the forum. :o)