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KatheH (Indiana)
Posts: 4
Posted:
I live in Indiana. Our board is in the process of amending the covenants to state homeowners cannot rent their houses. Is this legal? They want an owner-occupied neighborhood. It takes away the homeowners rights, i.e., to travel extensively, job transfer, investment property, prevent foreclosure due to job loss, etc. Can't the board see that we cannot prevent things that happen to us as part of life itself? I believe their efforts will result in alot of empty houses without receiving the annual assessments. Can anyone provide advice?
hoatalk (California)
Posts: 599
Posted:
First, you may want to search our forum for the word rentals, since we have had a lot of good discussion on this topic. (Use the search box on the upper right of the screen).

Second, the Board alone should not be able to amend your covenants. There is normally a homeowner vote required with a certain percent YES, before any covenant change can be made. Check your HOA governing documents for details on the change procedure.

You can also check the Indiana statutes here: http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title32/ar25/

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LuciusD
Posts: 139
Posted:
Your board may be legitimately concerned to want to discourage purchase of properties by "investors" whose
objective is to turn them into perpetual rentals.

I have seen covenants that "control" rentals by placing a quota on the total number of units that may be rented at any time and by requiring prior permisssion to rent a property.

What you might want to do is to seek a compromise that satisies the needs of owners without attracting absentee owner-investors.

Either way, you need to study the governing documents in detail and become involved. Bad things can happen if owners leave everything to a board that thinks it "knows it all".
LindaJ (California)
Posts: 21
Posted:
We live in an upper middle-class townhouse association and our board of directors sent a questionaaire to the homeowners asking their opinion on rentals, stating that the Board was NOT in favor of rentals. Ninety-five percent of the homeowners were NOT in favor of rentals. The main reason is that homeowners are apt to comply with the rules and bylaws, whereas we have witnessed that renters do not care about the property or the environment. And it has been determined that when there are rental units in our type of association, it devaluates all properties and prospective buyers are reluctant to purchase a townhome where there are rentals. Our by-laws are written that 75% of homeowners must be present at a meeting to amend our by-laws.
KatheH (Indiana)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Good points from those responding. In my opinion, the rental agreement could be devised as a legally binding document within Indiana state guidelines. It could state that the renter will abide by the covenants, which include maintaining the property as described therein. I used to live in a community south of Wash DC of 10,00+ houses. The homeowners were allowed to rent their homes. My husband and I were renters and signed a 3-year lease. We abided by the covenants and were given a copy before we signed on the dotted line. The assessment fee was paid by the homeowner. So, I don't understand why it couldn't work elsewhere.

Also, the board members for our HOA are trying to control and ignore our rights as homeowners. Three of the five board member's spouses solely comprise the Architectural Committee. I volunteered to chair the covenants committee but wasn't "selected" to be on the committee. The board chose homeowners who would side with them and do as they asked. This really concerns me. I built my house in this neighborhood before any of these board members did. And I built based on the covenants at the time. Now, my privilege to rent is being taken away as well as being unfairly controlled.
LindaJ (California)
Posts: 21
Posted:
I guess I would ask the question "Why do people buy into a development that has an association, then want to rent out their home". I'll assume that they want someone else to take care of "policing" their tenants. I do not think that is fair to the people who want to continue to live in the association as their "home". Our association comprises of mostly seniors or homeowners that are near retirement. As they reach this stage in their lives, they want to head south for the winter (up to 6 months) - we are in Minnesota. They do not rent out their homes, but they are not available to be on the Board either, which means they really want someone else to do the work while they simply pay their dues. For this reason, I do not think we are being harsh by changing our rules on disallowing more rentals. This is our "home", not a rental community. We heard that a friend of the builder was going to buy 10 (of 128 total) units so he could rent them out. We certainly do not want this to become a neighborhood that has absentee owners with renters. We are in an upper middle class development, and it was not intended to be a rental community, we just need to clarify it in our covenants now.
KatheH (Indiana)
Posts: 4
Posted:
I can see and understand both sides of this issue. I certainly don't want to have alot of rentals in our neighborhood either. However, not being able to rent my home does take away my priviledge as a homeowner of having the option of renting my home under unexpected dire conditions such as job loss, travel, etc. or to buy a house for an investment puposes and future live-in. For the investment, I would like to buy my home now when interest rates are low while I travel or help out with elder family members in various States. I don't have the option to pay the entire cost of a house at closing. I would have to have a mortgage. The covenants did not restrict renting when I purchased my present home.
LindaJ (California)
Posts: 21
Posted:
This is the first time my husband and I have lived in an association environment. We were accustom to doing what we want, when we wanted. However, we gave up much of that freedom four years ago when we decided to live in an association maintained townhouse association. We moved here "because of the covenants", knowing the property would be maintained to our above average expectations. I don't mean to sound heartless, but you must expect to give up some rights when moving into a community association. There are very few buyers that read the complete covenants before entering into this contract. These are contracts that you must enter into with the realization that a majority rule can change them at any time.

I feel it is selfish for buyers to make investment decisions that would create a negative impact to surrounding properties. It WILL negatively impact MY investment when YOU rent out your property.

It is time-consuming enough to deal with the day-to-day management of our community and some home "owners" that disregard the covenants. The demand on the Board's time will be much greater when you add renters into the scenario. No volunteer Board member will want to handle these excessive issues. Eventually we would have to hire a management company which would cost EVERY homeowner several hundred dollars a year - just so YOU can rent out YOUR home.

When the time comes that I cannot live in this home, I will do the responsible thing - I will not expect my neighbors to be impacted by my personal challenges - I will sell my home.
KatheH (Indiana)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Thanks to all who responded. I agree with most points. Whether people read the HOA covenants before buying is a mute point. They are still legally bound to follow them even if they didn't know they existed or failed to read them. Also, I never thought by allowing our single homeowners the priviledge of renting their homes as "irresponsible". I thought the covenant modification could include the points that the association agreed to put there regarding renting, i.e., keeping their house, fences, and yard in good order, etc. I would think that homeowners in my neighborhood would run background and credit checks on potential renters to know of their habits. We are people with average incomes - middle class. I might add - one past president of our HOA moved in increments during late night hours due to foreclosure. No one knew his house was in foreclosure and this person caused alot of trouble with other board members immediately before his departure. This person was in collusion with a vice president and he also moved out of the neighborhood (house is for sell) after getting the other 'noble' board members voted off the board by hostile homeowners at a HOA meeting. I am only making reference to this to point out that probably no matter what the covenants say - people will not care, be self-serving, and sadly some people will just be downright dishonest. Guess its time for me to move to a non-HOA neighborhood. P.S. I lived in a neighborhood HOA with over 10,000 homes. Rentals weren't a problem and did not bring down house values. Why can't a small neighborhood of 145 homes do the same? I just don't get it.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
KatheH, check your Declaration to see if you have a provision that requires First Mortgagees must be notified on this amendment. If so, this would create a real handicap in getting the amendment passed. And you can check to see if there are statutes in your state which such an amendment would violate.

Roger

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