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AnnaD2
(Florida)

Posts:338


08/02/2008 5:14 AM  
Hi Ellen,

I'm just really curious what happened at your meeting the other evening. Were you all able to agree which person to appoint to your board seat? Please let us know!
EllenS1
(Florida)

Posts:353


08/02/2008 6:14 PM  
It was 3 to 1 for the non-active member. We felt we could not run with an equal number on the board. We met with him, asked some questions and here we are. Since then we have had a special meeting regarding a $20,000 lien we have against one of our owners but he didn't attend. I held up my one vote for the other person who has been active. We will see what happens. I wasn't encouraged when he learned at our meeting with him that a board member can be removed if 3 consecutive meetings would be an automatic removal his comment was "if I want to get off the board then I just have to miss 3 consecutive meetings and not 3 in one year?" I'll wait for the ones who voted for him to see the error of their ways and don't think it will take that long. And, who knows, maybe he will be prodcutive???? When pigs fly.
DonnaS
(Tennessee)

Posts:2840


08/02/2008 6:35 PM  

Ellen,
Wow, That's a sad day when a newly appointed Board member wants to know how soon he will be removed for being delinquent. Maybe this should be a good time to find a real candidate for down the road. It might happen sooner than you think. Soory to hear the bad news.
AnnaD2
(Florida)

Posts:338


08/02/2008 6:36 PM  
Thank you Ellen for replying. I just can't imagine what those other Board Members were thinking when they wanted that person to fill the seat. Usually it means they think they have someone they can "sway" to vote as they do on issues.

The poor guy has been "used"....it's evident. It looks as if he has NO CLUE what is happening and why he's been "placed" into that position. It's all owner apathy---and he looks like another "sap" who has been used. I don't mean HE'S a sap....just being played as one.

I now expect to hear a lot of expert advise from other "expert" posters here who have a lot of experience with condo associations. But PLEASE remember that not ALL OF US live in million dollar condos, with million dollar budgets. There are a lot of us out here who live in "meager" associations....with diverse populations to go along with it. High end educations; low intelligence; retired executives; laid-off professional people; white-collar divorcees; blue-collar workers; nurses; disgraced MD's; teachers; disbared attorneys; waitresses; lab technitions; convicted felons; school dean; store manager; office manager; single mothers; mechanics; the list goes on and on. We have it All here---and only 46 units!

My point is that there is a BROAD educational background at some associations and many, many people can be "swayed" by the one or two who "prey" on them to achieve their own agenda.
EllenS1
(Florida)

Posts:353


08/02/2008 6:56 PM  
Donna,

Actually I had to stifle a laugh when he said that. I was thinking if this guy were applying for any type of job it would have been "nice meeting you ...goodbye." In addition to making himself look stupid it showed he was lazy. We'll be alright. When our management company does it's monthly walk through a board member goes with them. I intend to ask him to do it and we'll see how eager he is to be on the board. Guess he doesn't know that serving on the board entails more than a once a month meeting.
EllenS1
(Florida)

Posts:353


08/02/2008 6:59 PM  
nna,

One who voted for him said "we need a man on the board". We already had one and the worst president we had a few years ago was a man, not that I'm against men bu this made me want to upchuck...what does sex have to do with it?
RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2154


08/02/2008 7:25 PM  
Anna,
You make a good point about diversity in condos, but I have to point out that in a ton of condos, now one knows what their neighbor has done, is doing or may want to do, like, worship the shells of Loggerhead turtles. Who knows.

But the diversity on this site seems to be wide spread, and yet, we have agreed to get along. That is a wonderful trick if you can pull it off, and we do a hell of a job of it. I really think your reference to Million dollar condos is off base, but I could be wrong. I just don;t sense any degree of eliteism here. Some great people have passed through here in my time, and I was sorry to see them go and wish them the best. Our condo could be called average for Ocean front, nothing close to 1 million, although I have heard us referred to as the "Tenements" by a snob on the POA Board. Our all emcompassing mandatory regime. But over the years we have managed to maintain our end of the deal and even if the single family homes here on the island may frown on us, we have some desireable features. Your condo might be something less expensive that ours by I think I would take a mix of people that lived in a society than absentee owners searching to make a quick buck. And whether it is your place or ours, we are only as good as the total, so take a deep breath and don't jump the gun. I can assure you that not only I would find the conduct you describe unacceptable, but the keepers of this site may have a word or two about that.
Which brings up an excellent suggestion. I think we that post here should not hesitate to drop a word or two of thanks for the people that have provided this site, and there wonderful ability to let things roam far and wide and NEVER try to lead the band. Thank you HoaTalk.
RobertR1
(South Carolina)

Posts:2154


08/02/2008 7:42 PM  
Ellen,
I think I said before and if I didn't, say it now. You are a formibable opponent and your board would do well to listen to you. I suspect in this case it is just a matter of time before you will have every one in the place on the chess table and the games will begin. If you would like you can paste this on your buletin Board, feel free. We also have some others just as capable on this site.

Unknown Web site poster suggests all owners surrender and join the forward movement of Ellen (?). Will save the regime time and money not to mention bodily harm.
AnnaD2
(Florida)

Posts:338


08/03/2008 9:26 AM  
Robert, funny you mention "tenements" and we had a past president who herself has called our home such. She goes around making "friends" with all the people that SHE considers scumbags, just to get them to vote for her. The day she said to me that she wants a "better class of people in here" was the day I realized her true colors. When I questioned how she proposed to get them to sell and move away she just matter-of-factly stated, "Well by raising the maintenance fees, of course!" Can you imagine that? I went off on a tirade on her explaining that we may not like the lifestyles, or cars, or even LOOKS of some of our neighbors, but this is what we've got and this is who we are, and that I'll have NOTHING to do with trying to price these people right out of their homes.

Everyone is here for one reason or another. They're paying the same maintenance fees as the rest of us. Her motives were pure "me, me, me." Good board members can't and shouldn't think that way, but have to consider every single person in their community.
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